4 ms·
> If you have two systems that are implemented in different ways but the output is indistinguishable I feel that you're forced to claim that the systems operate
by NateEag 4y ago
> If you have two systems that are implemented in different ways but the output is indistinguishable I feel that you're forced to claim that the systems operate in fundamentally similar ways.
So a nuclear power plant and a solar panel farm each generating 4500 MW are operating in fundamentally similar ways?
I mean... in some sense, yeah. They both rely on electromagnetic effects to generate electricity.
They still seem to be operating in really different ways to me, though.
- defrost 4y agoSure .. I mean one is providing 4500 MW from a fission reaction whereas the other is providing 4500 MW from a fusion reaction . . . but fundamentally both are providing nuclear sourced power.
- NateEag 4y agoMy point was about the self-contained systems, not the rest of the universe around them.
- defrost 4y agoTrue enough, mine was that in the context of a discussion about reasoning about reasoning (if it is fact reason), you might need better metaphors. I don't hold with a lot of the evolutionary claims put forward in Jaynes Origin of Consciousness.. but he does put forward a solid intitial discussion of "WTF is intelligence anyway" that's worth the read (if you've not read it and have the interest).