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Who's the fascist in this situation?

by kevinh 4y ago

kodyo 4y ago
The corporation and the state partnering to censor speech.
- _kbh_ 4y ago
  So the Trump administration then? because we haven't seen anything to indicate that the Biden administration has asked for things to be censored, only that the Trump administration made requests whilst he was still in power.
  - kodyo 4y ago
    Are you under the impression that the FBI was acting on behalf of Trump during his presidency?
    - Apocryphon 4y ago
      He was the commander in chief. Who do you believe the FBI is acting on behalf of if not his handpicked successor to Comey?
      - kodyo 4y ago
        The FBI acts on behalf of the state, and the FBI. Trump picked an FBI guy to run the FBI. I don't know why he did it, either.
        Apocryphon 4y ago
        Maybe the FBI director was under orders from the president to prevent opposition hacks from spreading misinformation about the date of the election, thereby costing him the election. Wait, are you saying this was all to ensure Trump wins? Are you saying this is proof of a Watergate type situation?!?
      - hackinthebochs 4y ago
        The FBI certainly wasn't acting on behalf of Obama when they sat on the revelation of Hilary's emails found on Huma Abedin's laptop to manufacture an October surprise. The fact that folks like Giuliani knew about it before it was made public goes to show that the FBI isn't a unified organization all moving in the same direction.
        Apocryphon 4y ago
        Maybe Obama wanted revenge on Hillary’s use of dirty tricks against him during the 2008 primaries. https://spectator.org/64130_obama-accused-hillary-labeling-him-muslim/ https://spectator.org/64130_obama-accused-hillary-labeling-h...
    - _kbh_ 4y ago
      I am talking about this tweet specifically. https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598828932395978752 https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598828932395978752 That mentions that both parties had access to the tools at the time, and both had requests honoured. But only party was in power at the time, and that was the Trump administration.
- jumelles 4y ago
  No one has a right to use Twitter. It's a private website.
  - kodyo 4y ago
    A private website that was taking signals from the federal government and taking action on them with no pushback. They were censoring people the government was asking them to censor. The relationship was cozy. It's OK if people are cool with that. It takes all kinds.
- BEEdwards 4y ago
  ...did we read the same thing? This is sinister music played over a video of someone doing the dishes. "Between January 2020 and November 2022, there were over 150 emails between the FBI and former Twitter Trust and Safety chief Yoel Roth." 150 emails in 2 years is a partnership? All the provided examples are actual misinformation and low effort nonsense and at no point was twitter forced to do anything. This is literally nothing.
  - kodyo 4y ago

Who's the fascist in this situation?

by kevinh 4y ago

Who's the fascist in this situation?

kodyo 4y ago

The corporation and the state partnering to censor speech.

_kbh_ 4y ago
So the Trump administration then? because we haven't seen anything to indicate that the Biden administration has asked for things to be censored, only that the Trump administration made requests whilst he was still in power.
- kodyo 4y ago
  Are you under the impression that the FBI was acting on behalf of Trump during his presidency?
  - Apocryphon 4y ago
    He was the commander in chief. Who do you believe the FBI is acting on behalf of if not his handpicked successor to Comey?
    - kodyo 4y ago
      The FBI acts on behalf of the state, and the FBI. Trump picked an FBI guy to run the FBI. I don't know why he did it, either.
      - Apocryphon 4y ago
        Maybe the FBI director was under orders from the president to prevent opposition hacks from spreading misinformation about the date of the election, thereby costing him the election. Wait, are you saying this was all to ensure Trump wins? Are you saying this is proof of a Watergate type situation?!?
    - hackinthebochs 4y ago
      The FBI certainly wasn't acting on behalf of Obama when they sat on the revelation of Hilary's emails found on Huma Abedin's laptop to manufacture an October surprise. The fact that folks like Giuliani knew about it before it was made public goes to show that the FBI isn't a unified organization all moving in the same direction.
      - Apocryphon 4y ago
        Maybe Obama wanted revenge on Hillary’s use of dirty tricks against him during the 2008 primaries. https://spectator.org/64130_obama-accused-hillary-labeling-him-muslim/ https://spectator.org/64130_obama-accused-hillary-labeling-h...
  - _kbh_ 4y ago
    I am talking about this tweet specifically. https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598828932395978752 https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598828932395978752 That mentions that both parties had access to the tools at the time, and both had requests honoured. But only party was in power at the time, and that was the Trump administration.
jumelles 4y ago
No one has a right to use Twitter. It's a private website.
- kodyo 4y ago
  A private website that was taking signals from the federal government and taking action on them with no pushback. They were censoring people the government was asking them to censor. The relationship was cozy. It's OK if people are cool with that. It takes all kinds.
BEEdwards 4y ago
...did we read the same thing? This is sinister music played over a video of someone doing the dishes. "Between January 2020 and November 2022, there were over 150 emails between the FBI and former Twitter Trust and Safety chief Yoel Roth." 150 emails in 2 years is a partnership? All the provided examples are actual misinformation and low effort nonsense and at no point was twitter forced to do anything. This is literally nothing.
- kodyo 4y ago