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What you are describing sounds like a protracted psychotic break. Schizophrenia doesn’t just come one day and disappear 6 months later.

WhackyIdeas 4y ago
Maybe you are right. I watched a Netflix doc on schizophrenia a few days ago, and it was ‘check, check, check’ for nearly every symptom. I suppose there’s a lot of overlap with the more extreme mental health issues.
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- psychphysic 4y ago
  Having a quick look through this thread just about nothing your describe fits well with traditional psychiatric disorders. For example panic attacks almost by definition do not last more than 15minutes. Although self diagnosis is near impossible, I mean how can you expect to be an objective observer of your self when you can barely watch TV? It's possible a trained psychiatrist would be able to make a snap diagnosis for you if they were able to watch and listen to you at the time.
  - WhackyIdeas 4y ago
    That was just my very first, introductory panic attack. I did have another which lasted a very very long time when I was outside, but I was given a shot of adrenaline for that one. The thousands of others have been under 15mins.
    - psychphysic 4y ago
      You were given a shot of adrenaline for a panic attack?
      - WhackyIdeas 4y ago
        Not exactly. More like a solo first time trip on 5 acid tabs going horribly wrong. It wasn’t meant to be a solo trip, but my ‘friends’ abandoned me. I tried to go outside because I was absolutely freaking out walking around a busy town, thinking I could distract myself. Then shit hit the fan even worse. It was a terrible trip, put it that way. So more like an extreme long lasting panic attack on top of visual hallucinations. I was 19 and dumb clearly masochistic! Oh fun fact: When an ambulance was called and they basically dragged me into the hospital bed. As they injected me with adrenaline, that scene from Matrix happened to me as real as day (obv not tho) of when Neo touches the mirror and it goes up his arm and over him - I hallucinated that it was happening to me, watching the cold metalic liquid travelling up my arm. It was quite out there stuff!
        psychphysic 4y ago
        None of this makes sense. Venous delivered adrenaline is used to close down peripheral circulation during cardiac arrest to encourage the poor flow to perfuse the heart, lungs and brain. Maintaining tissue viability until recovery. Intramuscular adrenaline is used in anaphylaxis. Either makes sense in the context you describe. I must be missing something. Are you misremembering stuff?
        WhackyIdeas 4y ago
        I have been certain for 17 years that they said it was adrenaline. If it wasn’t adrenaline, what else could it be? I went in and out of waves of in outside this world to inside the room to outside this world and inside the room. Until I was firmly inside the room and out if the trip. It was fast. And it was into my vein, they tied a rubber hose around my arm. I watched the needle go in. And I had to hide my arm for weeks cause it looked like I injected - all bruised and stuff. Few holes. Must have missed with me moving about. I also have a vivid memory of the heart beat monitor showing 240!
        psychphysic 4y ago
        Adenosine? Used to revert a supraventricular tachycardia. Name sounds enough like adrenaline to mix them up, and would have felt like death. Adenosine is rapidly metabolised so it needs to be delivered into a reasonably large vein and pushed with a bolus so I can't imagine it wrecking your arm where the cannula was placed.
refurb 4y ago
Not usually, but schizophrenia is a waxing and waning disease like MS - patients tend to get episodes of worsening symptoms then remission (partial) where symptoms get better. Then they’ll get another relapse and often it’s worse, eventually resulting in a state of chronic symptoms. Treatment with antipsychotic medication can actually “pause” the cycles and prevent the disease from getting worse if started early. It’s definitely a progressive disease. I always thought of schizophrenia as a disease you just got and always had.
- singingfish 4y ago
  Schizophrenia is a degenerative condition where positive symptoms start to be replaced by negative symptoms over the course of years. I've worked in acute adult mental health, and did a few shifts in the long term wards and the difference between people earlier on in the course of their illness versus the end stages are stark.
  - WhackyIdeas 4y ago
    I would so love to chat with someone with your experience. I developed tourettes / ticking a few years ago when I was around 32 and I wonder whether it could be related to the psychosis I once had. When I researched sudden onset ticking I couldn’t really find much about it! There hasn’t been a day in past 4 years I’ve not ticked and it is worse than ever.
    - bobkazamakis 4y ago
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obsessive%E2%80%93compulsive_spectrum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obsessive%E2%80%93compulsive_s...
    - kotlip 4y ago
      Curious if you've heard about socially-induced Tourette-like behaviours? There was a HN post about it not too long ago, one of the signs was sudden onset later in life: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33878155 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33878155
WhackyIdeas 4y ago
I think what helped me brake out of too is that I learned to accept (and not fight) the possibility that we are all living in an illusion, and that we are all sharing the same consciousness and that it’s the job of all our senses; eyes, ears, etc to keep us efficiently preoccupied. Maybe I was just struck by philosopher lightening! Haha!

WhackyIdeas 4y ago

Maybe you are right. I watched a Netflix doc on schizophrenia a few days ago, and it was ‘check, check, check’ for nearly every symptom. I suppose there’s a lot of overlap with the more extreme mental health issues.

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psychphysic 4y ago
Having a quick look through this thread just about nothing your describe fits well with traditional psychiatric disorders. For example panic attacks almost by definition do not last more than 15minutes. Although self diagnosis is near impossible, I mean how can you expect to be an objective observer of your self when you can barely watch TV? It's possible a trained psychiatrist would be able to make a snap diagnosis for you if they were able to watch and listen to you at the time.
- WhackyIdeas 4y ago
  That was just my very first, introductory panic attack. I did have another which lasted a very very long time when I was outside, but I was given a shot of adrenaline for that one. The thousands of others have been under 15mins.
  - psychphysic 4y ago
    You were given a shot of adrenaline for a panic attack?
    - WhackyIdeas 4y ago
      Not exactly. More like a solo first time trip on 5 acid tabs going horribly wrong. It wasn’t meant to be a solo trip, but my ‘friends’ abandoned me. I tried to go outside because I was absolutely freaking out walking around a busy town, thinking I could distract myself. Then shit hit the fan even worse. It was a terrible trip, put it that way. So more like an extreme long lasting panic attack on top of visual hallucinations. I was 19 and dumb clearly masochistic! Oh fun fact: When an ambulance was called and they basically dragged me into the hospital bed. As they injected me with adrenaline, that scene from Matrix happened to me as real as day (obv not tho) of when Neo touches the mirror and it goes up his arm and over him - I hallucinated that it was happening to me, watching the cold metalic liquid travelling up my arm. It was quite out there stuff!
      - psychphysic 4y ago
        None of this makes sense. Venous delivered adrenaline is used to close down peripheral circulation during cardiac arrest to encourage the poor flow to perfuse the heart, lungs and brain. Maintaining tissue viability until recovery. Intramuscular adrenaline is used in anaphylaxis. Either makes sense in the context you describe. I must be missing something. Are you misremembering stuff?
        WhackyIdeas 4y ago
        I have been certain for 17 years that they said it was adrenaline. If it wasn’t adrenaline, what else could it be? I went in and out of waves of in outside this world to inside the room to outside this world and inside the room. Until I was firmly inside the room and out if the trip. It was fast. And it was into my vein, they tied a rubber hose around my arm. I watched the needle go in. And I had to hide my arm for weeks cause it looked like I injected - all bruised and stuff. Few holes. Must have missed with me moving about. I also have a vivid memory of the heart beat monitor showing 240!
        psychphysic 4y ago
        Adenosine? Used to revert a supraventricular tachycardia. Name sounds enough like adrenaline to mix them up, and would have felt like death. Adenosine is rapidly metabolised so it needs to be delivered into a reasonably large vein and pushed with a bolus so I can't imagine it wrecking your arm where the cannula was placed.

refurb 4y ago

Not usually, but schizophrenia is a waxing and waning disease like MS - patients tend to get episodes of worsening symptoms then remission (partial) where symptoms get better. Then they’ll get another relapse and often it’s worse, eventually resulting in a state of chronic symptoms. Treatment with antipsychotic medication can actually “pause” the cycles and prevent the disease from getting worse if started early. It’s definitely a progressive disease. I always thought of schizophrenia as a disease you just got and always had.

singingfish 4y ago
Schizophrenia is a degenerative condition where positive symptoms start to be replaced by negative symptoms over the course of years. I've worked in acute adult mental health, and did a few shifts in the long term wards and the difference between people earlier on in the course of their illness versus the end stages are stark.
- WhackyIdeas 4y ago
  I would so love to chat with someone with your experience. I developed tourettes / ticking a few years ago when I was around 32 and I wonder whether it could be related to the psychosis I once had. When I researched sudden onset ticking I couldn’t really find much about it! There hasn’t been a day in past 4 years I’ve not ticked and it is worse than ever.
  - bobkazamakis 4y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obsessive%E2%80%93compulsive_spectrum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obsessive%E2%80%93compulsive_s...
  - kotlip 4y ago
    Curious if you've heard about socially-induced Tourette-like behaviours? There was a HN post about it not too long ago, one of the signs was sudden onset later in life: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33878155 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33878155

WhackyIdeas 4y ago

I think what helped me brake out of too is that I learned to accept (and not fight) the possibility that we are all living in an illusion, and that we are all sharing the same consciousness and that it’s the job of all our senses; eyes, ears, etc to keep us efficiently preoccupied. Maybe I was just struck by philosopher lightening! Haha!