> Whether or not they "do actual reasoning" simply won't matter. It does. This is trivially true in some domains like mathematics. If you're going to try and m

> Whether or not they "do actual reasoning" simply won't matter. It does. This is trivially true in some domains like mathematics. If you're going to try and measure the last number of pi (which gpt-3 a while ago thought was 3 apparently because some python library returned that result) from observed data I wish you good luck. Deductive reasoning is a necessary skill for any generally intelligent agent. Now how to get from current AI to a system that can reason and how much we're going to need to put in there is an open question, but to deny that deduction is necessary is kind of trivially false. This almost harkens back to the naive empiricism of Skinner that died with the cognitive sciences.