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Just a thought, but have you considered legal action? If no one on HN is able to help, a letter written by a lawyer to Facebook legal might escalate the proble

Just a thought, but have you considered legal action? If no one on HN is able to help, a letter written by a lawyer to Facebook legal might escalate the problem appropriately.

rqmedes 4y ago
Thanks for the advice; willing to try anything right now.
- hardwaresofton 4y ago
  Absolutely no problem, really hoping for the best for you and your daughter. I hope you can find the right lawyer with the right tone and touch to make a difference here -- it's both a business and personal issue.
  - rqmedes 4y ago
    Thank you
  - rqmedes 4y ago
    It’s terrifying how easy it is today to destroy someone’s life with no escape from bullying. Back in my day, I had to deal with the beatings but I could always stay at home, and when I became an adult I could avoid it. Today nowhere is safe
    - hardwaresofton 4y ago
      Yeah this is quite concerning. I hear that younger people these days bully each other less, but I wonder if the bullying is just less visible. Humans certainly don't change as fast as technology, so it makes sense but still incredibly sad to hear what you and your family are going through. And on top of all that Meta intentionally/unintentionally making it worse.
paxys 4y ago
Legal action based on what?
- ummonk 4y ago
  Doesn’t matter. The point is to get a human to pay attention.
  - paxys 4y ago
    The only human who will pay attention will be some random Facebook paralegal, who will promptly reply with some templatized "we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone".
    - hardwaresofton 4y ago
      You don't know that's what will happen, or what will come of trying to find a lawyer who has experience with things like this, or pursuing the suggestion. What a defeatist attitude. This isn't what I expect to find on HN. We all know it's within FB's rights to refuse service to anyone and the convoluted ToS an policies we all agree to when using online services these days.
- CoastalCoder 4y ago
  If it's on suspicion of slander or tortuous interference with a business relationship, perhaps unmask the reason / source of the ban during discovery? IANAL so no idea of there's any chance of that working, I'm just brainstorming.
- hardwaresofton 4y ago
  Note that I did not say legal action -- I said a letter. With the right wording, explanation of the case and concerns, and some finesse, FB counsel who might receive this letter may be motivated to solve it quickly and efficiently. Actual legal action is a last resort, because if it goes bad everyone loses (especially the young creator, because it could take years). Good lawyers should be good at that kind of thing.
hardwaresofton 4y ago
Responding to myself because outside edit window. I see why people keep mentioning/focusing on "legal action" -- what I should have emphasized is "send a letter", not "bring a case against Facebook". Contacting legal is a different avenue that could be helpful for finding someone with power to do something about the problem.

Just a thought, but have you considered legal action? If no one on HN is able to help, a letter written by a lawyer to Facebook legal might escalate the problem appropriately.

rqmedes 4y ago

Thanks for the advice; willing to try anything right now.

hardwaresofton 4y ago
Absolutely no problem, really hoping for the best for you and your daughter. I hope you can find the right lawyer with the right tone and touch to make a difference here -- it's both a business and personal issue.
- rqmedes 4y ago
  Thank you
- rqmedes 4y ago
  It’s terrifying how easy it is today to destroy someone’s life with no escape from bullying. Back in my day, I had to deal with the beatings but I could always stay at home, and when I became an adult I could avoid it. Today nowhere is safe
  - hardwaresofton 4y ago
    Yeah this is quite concerning. I hear that younger people these days bully each other less, but I wonder if the bullying is just less visible. Humans certainly don't change as fast as technology, so it makes sense but still incredibly sad to hear what you and your family are going through. And on top of all that Meta intentionally/unintentionally making it worse.

paxys 4y ago

Legal action based on what?

ummonk 4y ago
Doesn’t matter. The point is to get a human to pay attention.
- paxys 4y ago
  The only human who will pay attention will be some random Facebook paralegal, who will promptly reply with some templatized "we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone".
  - hardwaresofton 4y ago
    You don't know that's what will happen, or what will come of trying to find a lawyer who has experience with things like this, or pursuing the suggestion. What a defeatist attitude. This isn't what I expect to find on HN. We all know it's within FB's rights to refuse service to anyone and the convoluted ToS an policies we all agree to when using online services these days.
CoastalCoder 4y ago
If it's on suspicion of slander or tortuous interference with a business relationship, perhaps unmask the reason / source of the ban during discovery? IANAL so no idea of there's any chance of that working, I'm just brainstorming.
hardwaresofton 4y ago
Note that I did not say legal action -- I said a letter. With the right wording, explanation of the case and concerns, and some finesse, FB counsel who might receive this letter may be motivated to solve it quickly and efficiently. Actual legal action is a last resort, because if it goes bad everyone loses (especially the young creator, because it could take years). Good lawyers should be good at that kind of thing.

hardwaresofton 4y ago

Responding to myself because outside edit window. I see why people keep mentioning/focusing on "legal action" -- what I should have emphasized is "send a letter", not "bring a case against Facebook". Contacting legal is a different avenue that could be helpful for finding someone with power to do something about the problem.