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it's the 2022 version of "kill your television" and i love it. in practice: i wonder how practical it is to survive as an adult without a smartphone. uber has

by a-dub 4y ago

it's the 2022 version of "kill your television" and i love it. in practice: i wonder how practical it is to survive as an adult without a smartphone. uber has decimated cabs and i don't think you can telephone for an uber. i wonder what else is unreachable/unworkable/etc...

kritiko 4y ago
In Brooklyn now, it's cheaper to use a car service than Uber/Lyft, so I think you could get by fine without those apps. Getting around without Google Maps would be pretty challenging, I think.
- discardedrefuse 4y ago
  > Getting around without Google Maps would be pretty challenging, I think. I learned to drive before smartphones. I can assure you its very possible to find addresses without a phone. Heck, I still sometimes do it for fun! Nothing wrong with a little u-turn here or there.
  - rufus_foreman 4y ago
    Before smartphones I would use a street map, which were sold at every gas station. And if I was still having trouble, I would call for directions from a public pay phone, which were located on street corners every few blocks.
- a-dub 4y ago
  just checked, chatgpt can give directions... reminds me of the old days when i used to text GOOGL for exact addresses
SquareWheel 4y ago
I don't carry a cellphone. The rates are atrocious in Canada, and I don't like being rung when I'm out and about. The biggest problem is 2-factor. Many services are starting to require it, which has led me to losing access to various accounts. Looking at you, Paypal. Otherwise, it's fine. I make a paper shopping list. I schedule meetings in advance, and show up at the expected time. Uber isn't even in my city so there's no loss there.
- frereubu 4y ago
  In the UK, you can get texts sent to landline numbers. Not sure if it's carrier-dependent, but my Mum would occasionally get texts sent to her landline. She'd get a call saying that she'd received a text and the text was read to her by a computer. Perhaps that might work in Canada?
  - SquareWheel 4y ago
    Thank you for the suggestion.
- crdotson 4y ago
  SMS 2 factor is terrible anyway and is on the way out, although it may still be the only choice for some services for quite a while. A hardware security key is best, and TOTP (Google Authenticator and similar) is very good and both can be used without cell connectivity.
  - SquareWheel 4y ago
    In Paypal, for example, this is the screen I reach every time I try to log in. https://i.imgur.com/V2WbK6C.png https://i.imgur.com/V2WbK6C.png There is no skip button. Even worse, every method I've tried to access customer support requires I be logged into an account. I do have an Android device at home that may support TOPT, but a lot of websites still recklessly assume you have a mobile number available.

by a-dub 4y ago

kritiko 4y ago

In Brooklyn now, it's cheaper to use a car service than Uber/Lyft, so I think you could get by fine without those apps. Getting around without Google Maps would be pretty challenging, I think.

discardedrefuse 4y ago
> Getting around without Google Maps would be pretty challenging, I think. I learned to drive before smartphones. I can assure you its very possible to find addresses without a phone. Heck, I still sometimes do it for fun! Nothing wrong with a little u-turn here or there.
- rufus_foreman 4y ago
  Before smartphones I would use a street map, which were sold at every gas station. And if I was still having trouble, I would call for directions from a public pay phone, which were located on street corners every few blocks.
a-dub 4y ago
just checked, chatgpt can give directions... reminds me of the old days when i used to text GOOGL for exact addresses

SquareWheel 4y ago

I don't carry a cellphone. The rates are atrocious in Canada, and I don't like being rung when I'm out and about. The biggest problem is 2-factor. Many services are starting to require it, which has led me to losing access to various accounts. Looking at you, Paypal. Otherwise, it's fine. I make a paper shopping list. I schedule meetings in advance, and show up at the expected time. Uber isn't even in my city so there's no loss there.

frereubu 4y ago
In the UK, you can get texts sent to landline numbers. Not sure if it's carrier-dependent, but my Mum would occasionally get texts sent to her landline. She'd get a call saying that she'd received a text and the text was read to her by a computer. Perhaps that might work in Canada?
- SquareWheel 4y ago
  Thank you for the suggestion.
crdotson 4y ago
SMS 2 factor is terrible anyway and is on the way out, although it may still be the only choice for some services for quite a while. A hardware security key is best, and TOTP (Google Authenticator and similar) is very good and both can be used without cell connectivity.
- SquareWheel 4y ago
  In Paypal, for example, this is the screen I reach every time I try to log in. https://i.imgur.com/V2WbK6C.png https://i.imgur.com/V2WbK6C.png There is no skip button. Even worse, every method I've tried to access customer support requires I be logged into an account. I do have an Android device at home that may support TOPT, but a lot of websites still recklessly assume you have a mobile number available.