I completely agree, I say all that as someone who is happy to pragmatically work with Python, but who is also very tired of the ecosystem and wouldn't choose it

I completely agree, I say all that as someone who is happy to pragmatically work with Python, but who is also very tired of the ecosystem and wouldn't choose it for much outside of data science. Which is unpleasant to admit, because it was my first language, and I did a lot of fun stuff with it.