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How else would they get food? Not everyone can afford to order in. Is your opinion that these people should just starve?

haswell 4y ago
While I agree that the parent comment is making huge assumptions about delivery options people have access to (both for geographical and for cost reasons), there are options in the middle. The majority of stores (grocery and otherwise) introduced curbside pickup options early in the pandemic, which at least provides more options for someone who doesn't have access to or can't afford delivery, while removing or minimizing the time they need to spend in-store. Not a perfect solution, but the options are not "delivery or starve".
- sn0wf1re 4y ago
  Can you provide a reference to a discount grocer (since you are replying to a comment about affordability) that offers curb-side or delivery without fee? I am not aware of any.
  - haswell 4y ago
    The moving of the goalposts aside (which were originally "order in or starve"), Target and Walmart are two major examples, since you specifically mentioned “discount”, and all of the major grocery stores in my metro area (Chicago, so YMMV) have a curbside pickup option. Some of them charge a service fee for pickups under $35, but from what I recall, the bigger chains do not. And with prices these days, you'd be hard pressed to do a grocery run that costs less than $35 unless you need a single item, but if you only need a single item, this is no longer a conversation about starving. As for free delivery, I believe some of them offer free delivery for orders over a certain size, but I was focused specifically on non-delivery options. Bottom line: there are many more options than “go in the store or starve”.
endisneigh 4y ago
Ideally you have enough food in your fridge to last without daily trips to the grocery store, so no, not starving.
- sn0wf1re 4y ago
  COVID symptoms (coughing in particular, which is a big spreader of particles) can last weeks. I don't know many people with multiple weeks worth of food in their fridge unless they have a deepfreeze (large chest freezer).
dietr1ch 4y ago
Most could ask friend or family for help. Not wanting to bother someone else is silly, since it results in bothering way more than one person.
- sn0wf1re 4y ago
  > Not wanting to bother someone else is silly, since it results in bothering way more than one person I agree with you. > Most could ask friend or family for help Most but not all. An alternative is asking a stranger (government programs where I am ended almost a year ago), strangers are kinder than people realize. But asking for help is challenging for many people.
acheron 4y ago
That's hardly a good faith interpretation of the post you're responding to. Do you actually want to discuss something or are you just looking to insult people?

haswell 4y ago

While I agree that the parent comment is making huge assumptions about delivery options people have access to (both for geographical and for cost reasons), there are options in the middle. The majority of stores (grocery and otherwise) introduced curbside pickup options early in the pandemic, which at least provides more options for someone who doesn't have access to or can't afford delivery, while removing or minimizing the time they need to spend in-store. Not a perfect solution, but the options are not "delivery or starve".

sn0wf1re 4y ago
Can you provide a reference to a discount grocer (since you are replying to a comment about affordability) that offers curb-side or delivery without fee? I am not aware of any.
- haswell 4y ago
  The moving of the goalposts aside (which were originally "order in or starve"), Target and Walmart are two major examples, since you specifically mentioned “discount”, and all of the major grocery stores in my metro area (Chicago, so YMMV) have a curbside pickup option. Some of them charge a service fee for pickups under $35, but from what I recall, the bigger chains do not. And with prices these days, you'd be hard pressed to do a grocery run that costs less than $35 unless you need a single item, but if you only need a single item, this is no longer a conversation about starving. As for free delivery, I believe some of them offer free delivery for orders over a certain size, but I was focused specifically on non-delivery options. Bottom line: there are many more options than “go in the store or starve”.

endisneigh 4y ago

Ideally you have enough food in your fridge to last without daily trips to the grocery store, so no, not starving.

sn0wf1re 4y ago
COVID symptoms (coughing in particular, which is a big spreader of particles) can last weeks. I don't know many people with multiple weeks worth of food in their fridge unless they have a deepfreeze (large chest freezer).

dietr1ch 4y ago

Most could ask friend or family for help. Not wanting to bother someone else is silly, since it results in bothering way more than one person.

sn0wf1re 4y ago
> Not wanting to bother someone else is silly, since it results in bothering way more than one person I agree with you. > Most could ask friend or family for help Most but not all. An alternative is asking a stranger (government programs where I am ended almost a year ago), strangers are kinder than people realize. But asking for help is challenging for many people.

acheron 4y ago

That's hardly a good faith interpretation of the post you're responding to. Do you actually want to discuss something or are you just looking to insult people?