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But if their adaptation of Foundation is a sign of things to come, we should hope it's not Apple TV+ that is going to produce any of these movies/series. Yes, t

by rixrax 4y ago

But if their adaptation of Foundation is a sign of things to come, we should hope it's not Apple TV+ that is going to produce any of these movies/series. Yes, that's what I really came to say here, they gave Foundation to some movie industry bureaucrats that A/B tested the storyline on some Joe Hillbillies and completely butchered the genius of Asimovs novels.

ryanwaggoner 4y ago
I guess I'm Joe Hillbilly, because I loved the Foundation tv series. No, it's not a faithful reproduction of the books, and I couldn't care less about that. I can love both and not get bent out of shape, especially since the books would make a pretty crappy tv show.
- fragmede 4y ago
  But if there's only the southwest resemblance between the two (eg World War Z) then it's just a stupid money grab and why not make a new universe for the story to exist in? It would lead to better franchising opportunities when there aren't books to compete with.
  - ghaff 4y ago
    I see no problem with a screenwriter taking inspiration from a book but taking it in a different direction to adapt it for a different media (and perhaps time). Honestly, I find the fans who can't tolerate one deviance from their bible tiresome.
quadrifoliate 4y ago
What are your precise criticisms about the adaptation? I am seriously unsure of whether I like it or not. Some ways in which I have gone back and forth: - It's visually on point (I think) in conveying the vastness of Asimov's imagined Galaxy. - The storyline is bent out of shape; but not enough to make it seem like a totally different series. - Then again, Salvor Hardin's character and others are much more action-oriented whereas in the books they are depicted as thinking and strategizing a lot more (from what I can remember, I really need to re-read the books). So I don't really have any substantive criticisms apart from a vague feeling of "this could have been better". Do you?
- Jayschwa 4y ago
  I didn't finish the TV show (I got maybe halfway through), but my main problem was the changes to Hardin. In the book, Hardin is a shrewd politician, and there's nothing magical or blessed about him. He "defeats" Anacreon by exploiting their own dim beliefs in magic against them. In the TV show, Hardin is a warrior with a special "magical" connection to the Vault. That conveys a very different, almost contradictory message compared to the book.

by rixrax 4y ago

ryanwaggoner 4y ago

I guess I'm Joe Hillbilly, because I loved the Foundation tv series. No, it's not a faithful reproduction of the books, and I couldn't care less about that. I can love both and not get bent out of shape, especially since the books would make a pretty crappy tv show.

fragmede 4y ago
But if there's only the southwest resemblance between the two (eg World War Z) then it's just a stupid money grab and why not make a new universe for the story to exist in? It would lead to better franchising opportunities when there aren't books to compete with.
- ghaff 4y ago
  I see no problem with a screenwriter taking inspiration from a book but taking it in a different direction to adapt it for a different media (and perhaps time). Honestly, I find the fans who can't tolerate one deviance from their bible tiresome.

quadrifoliate 4y ago

What are your precise criticisms about the adaptation? I am seriously unsure of whether I like it or not. Some ways in which I have gone back and forth: - It's visually on point (I think) in conveying the vastness of Asimov's imagined Galaxy. - The storyline is bent out of shape; but not enough to make it seem like a totally different series. - Then again, Salvor Hardin's character and others are much more action-oriented whereas in the books they are depicted as thinking and strategizing a lot more (from what I can remember, I really need to re-read the books). So I don't really have any substantive criticisms apart from a vague feeling of "this could have been better". Do you?

Jayschwa 4y ago
I didn't finish the TV show (I got maybe halfway through), but my main problem was the changes to Hardin. In the book, Hardin is a shrewd politician, and there's nothing magical or blessed about him. He "defeats" Anacreon by exploiting their own dim beliefs in magic against them. In the TV show, Hardin is a warrior with a special "magical" connection to the Vault. That conveys a very different, almost contradictory message compared to the book.