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I'm mumbling into the abyss here, but it would be better if somebody wrote a new story as good as Neuromancer was and developed that into a show instead. There

I'm mumbling into the abyss here, but it would be better if somebody wrote a new story as good as Neuromancer was and developed that into a show instead. There are talented and creative people out there who could imagine new things rather than spending their careers working on existing IP because it's believed to be a safer marketing strategy. Believing that only sequels, remakes, and adaptations are safe is ironic, because at some point all of the things you think you have to remake were new, unproven ideas.

Apocryphon 4y ago
Totally understandable. Star Wars might have been created only because Lucas couldn't get the rights to adapt Flash Gordon. Spielberg signed on to Indiana Jones after Lucas told him he had a better idea than simply making a James Bond movie.
- pantalaimon 4y ago
  I thought Star Wars took many elements from Foundation
  - Apocryphon 4y ago
    Star Wars took many elements from everything, but his core motivation was to make a 'space opera' influenced by the serialized sci-fi adventures of his youth- Flash Gordon and Buck Rogers.
    - fullshark 4y ago
      And Indiana Jones was basically updated adventure serials. The ideas of both were not that original, but the execution was ground breaking. I was also just thinking about how pretty much every blockbuster these days is made as the Phantom Menace was: greensceen, digital backgrounds, digital characters, episodic. The guy basically crafted the blueprint for 50 years of hollywood blockbuster films, especially if you consider his effects work contributions. And he's been mocked and reviled on the internet now for what 20 years?
      - Apocryphon 4y ago
        Just imagine if he had simply gotten the rights to Flash Gordon- his adaptations would have no doubt been good, but science fiction as we know it would be completely altered.
snowwrestler 4y ago
The trick with adaptations is to tell a story that resonates with contemporary themes using the bones of the source material. For example compare Thanos in the MCU to the character in the comic books. Same name and look, same actions (snapping away half the universe), totally different motivations and context. This is an incredibly fertile time to be adapting Neuromancer. Private space travel controlled by eccentric billionaires is an actual thing now. Independent AI seems way closer than ever before. Hacking and security are huge topics among governments and technical industries. Parts of the story have to be updated for base plausibility anyway (4MB of hot RAM). If the show runners do it right, they will update more than just that so that it resonates with us today. That’s a creative achievement too. Heck, a lot of Shakespeare’s plays were adaptations.
coryfklein 4y ago
This is basically Severance in a nutshell! Written and created for TV and executed perfectly. A must-watch from this year.

Apocryphon 4y ago

Totally understandable. Star Wars might have been created only because Lucas couldn't get the rights to adapt Flash Gordon. Spielberg signed on to Indiana Jones after Lucas told him he had a better idea than simply making a James Bond movie.

pantalaimon 4y ago
I thought Star Wars took many elements from Foundation
- Apocryphon 4y ago
  Star Wars took many elements from everything, but his core motivation was to make a 'space opera' influenced by the serialized sci-fi adventures of his youth- Flash Gordon and Buck Rogers.
  - fullshark 4y ago
    And Indiana Jones was basically updated adventure serials. The ideas of both were not that original, but the execution was ground breaking. I was also just thinking about how pretty much every blockbuster these days is made as the Phantom Menace was: greensceen, digital backgrounds, digital characters, episodic. The guy basically crafted the blueprint for 50 years of hollywood blockbuster films, especially if you consider his effects work contributions. And he's been mocked and reviled on the internet now for what 20 years?
    - Apocryphon 4y ago
      Just imagine if he had simply gotten the rights to Flash Gordon- his adaptations would have no doubt been good, but science fiction as we know it would be completely altered.

snowwrestler 4y ago

The trick with adaptations is to tell a story that resonates with contemporary themes using the bones of the source material. For example compare Thanos in the MCU to the character in the comic books. Same name and look, same actions (snapping away half the universe), totally different motivations and context. This is an incredibly fertile time to be adapting Neuromancer. Private space travel controlled by eccentric billionaires is an actual thing now. Independent AI seems way closer than ever before. Hacking and security are huge topics among governments and technical industries. Parts of the story have to be updated for base plausibility anyway (4MB of hot RAM). If the show runners do it right, they will update more than just that so that it resonates with us today. That’s a creative achievement too. Heck, a lot of Shakespeare’s plays were adaptations.

coryfklein 4y ago

This is basically Severance in a nutshell! Written and created for TV and executed perfectly. A must-watch from this year.