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I appreciate the replies. Still wondering why this could be -- what is it about the truck battery that makes it cheaper? Or are powerwalls simply over-priced?
by PopAlongKid 4y ago
I appreciate the replies. Still wondering why this could be -- what is it about the truck battery that makes it cheaper? Or are powerwalls simply over-priced?
- svnt 4y agoPowerwalls are both a niche and premium product, provided by basically one company, EVs are neither.
- bryanlarsen 4y agoThere are probably more companies making powerwall type products than there are car companies. For example, emergency power generation companies like Generac have them, there's an ecosystem of companies competing with Jackery that are attacking it from the bottom (ecoflow, bluetti, etc), a lot of solar and solar-adjacent companies have one (enphase, myenergi, etc).
- svnt 4y agoI doubt what you said is true but irrespective, number of companies != size of market, and the companies you mention serve different markets/functions, so a consumer product company also != an EV company. It is relatively easy to design/build/sell a functional powerwall or generator equivalent, but one person cannot get into the market with an EV.
- bryanlarsen 4y agoYour last statement is the reason why mine is true. I'm not trying to imply that the average powerwall company is comparable to an EV company.
- svnt 4y agoThen isn’t it also the reason why your statement isn’t relevant to the point I was making?
- bryanlarsen 4y agoYour original statement was "Powerwalls are both a niche and premium product, provided by basically one company, " Tesla has a very small fraction of this market. Most of the market is outside the US, and Tesla basically only operates in the US for power walls.
- Avshalom 4y agoPowerwalls aren't a business' core product, so they're priced at "how much to make it worth our time".
- dmix 4y agoPowerwall should still benefit from the economies of scale being put into Tesla cars and their battery plants. It’s a fair question why a truck would still be competitive.
- Avshalom 4y agobut again, they don't actually want to sell powerwalls, they want to sell cars, they're just willing to sell powerwalls.
- bryanlarsen 4y agoThere are a bunch of companies selling powerall type stuff as their core product. Ecoflow, Bluetti, etc.