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It could also be caused by authors getting better at expressing themselves succinctly.

recuter 4y ago
An ancient affliction / a hopeless optimist wades in / the sound of denial.
j0hnyl 4y ago
I think it's because publishers have loosened up a bit on their requirements and self-publishing is easier than ever. Traditionally, publishers wouldn't really invest in putting out short books aside from some notable exceptions.
- bombcar 4y ago
  There's also the "too big to edit" feature of many bestselling authors - look at the size of the Harry Potter books as an obvious example: (https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/harry-potter-paperback-boxed-set-books-1-7-j-k-rowling/1108948862 https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/harry-potter-paperback-boxe... third image). When an author gets famous enough they apparently get edited less. There may also be something about people not wanting to pay "full price" for a "thin book" but I doubt that's a major factor.
  - j0hnyl 4y ago
    Good point. I've definitely seen follow ups to books that did well that just felt more sloppy. The sequel to Shantaram is a prime example.
- ghaff 4y ago
  Though I doubt many of the books on the NYT bestsellers list are self-published. In general though I agree with you. For a lot of non-fiction books 100 pages is probably plenty but, if you go through a publisher, you'll have to go longer. It's one reason I likely won't use a publisher again.
  - j0hnyl 4y ago
    What kind of book did you put out? Do you feel like it was bloated as a result of going the traditional route?
    - ghaff 4y ago
      The book I put out through a publisher (Apress) was essentially open source software (How Open Source Ate Software) for the business person who understands it's important but really doesn't know where to get started to learn about it and how it works from a community, development, and business perspective. I did feel I was stretching to fill some pages in the first edition. That said, I was asked to do a second edition and it actually ended up a bit longer. I cut some "filler" that I didn't think was essential, reorganized, and dove more deeply into some topics (like legal matters with the assistance of a lawyer colleague) and I think it is now reasonably in right length territory; it covers a lot of territory. Another book I self-published on software packaging broadly and its analogs to various things in the real world today and historically ended up around 100 pages.

An ancient affliction / a hopeless optimist wades in / the sound of denial.

I think it's because publishers have loosened up a bit on their requirements and self-publishing is easier than ever. Traditionally, publishers wouldn't really invest in putting out short books aside from some notable exceptions.

bombcar 4y ago
There's also the "too big to edit" feature of many bestselling authors - look at the size of the Harry Potter books as an obvious example: (https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/harry-potter-paperback-boxed-set-books-1-7-j-k-rowling/1108948862 https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/harry-potter-paperback-boxe... third image). When an author gets famous enough they apparently get edited less. There may also be something about people not wanting to pay "full price" for a "thin book" but I doubt that's a major factor.
- j0hnyl 4y ago
  Good point. I've definitely seen follow ups to books that did well that just felt more sloppy. The sequel to Shantaram is a prime example.
ghaff 4y ago
Though I doubt many of the books on the NYT bestsellers list are self-published. In general though I agree with you. For a lot of non-fiction books 100 pages is probably plenty but, if you go through a publisher, you'll have to go longer. It's one reason I likely won't use a publisher again.
- j0hnyl 4y ago
  What kind of book did you put out? Do you feel like it was bloated as a result of going the traditional route?
  - ghaff 4y ago
    The book I put out through a publisher (Apress) was essentially open source software (How Open Source Ate Software) for the business person who understands it's important but really doesn't know where to get started to learn about it and how it works from a community, development, and business perspective. I did feel I was stretching to fill some pages in the first edition. That said, I was asked to do a second edition and it actually ended up a bit longer. I cut some "filler" that I didn't think was essential, reorganized, and dove more deeply into some topics (like legal matters with the assistance of a lawyer colleague) and I think it is now reasonably in right length territory; it covers a lot of territory. Another book I self-published on software packaging broadly and its analogs to various things in the real world today and historically ended up around 100 pages.