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> It is well-known that all currently available non-caloric sweeteners increase cardiometabolic risks. I'd honestly like to hear more about this, thank you in

> It is well-known that all currently available non-caloric sweeteners increase cardiometabolic risks. I'd honestly like to hear more about this, thank you in advance.

galangalalgol 4y ago
As would I. I keep reading so much conflicting evidence. All I know is that every sweetener I've ever used made me hungrier than if I didn't use it, and made me want more. I haven't tried those berries that make sour things taste sweet yet, curious about that.
- fallat 4y ago
  Why wouldnt it? You're used to the calories in your drink. Ive drank a coke zero almost every other day for a year. Maybe at first you will feel this but it's your body adjusting for what it expected. Calories in, calories out. If there are any questions about my state / behaviors let me know!
  - galangalalgol 4y ago
    Oh, I meant having something sweet regardless of why makes me hungrier vs something that isn't sweet. So black coffee doesn't make me hungry like stevia in coffee does. And diet dr peoper makes me hungry, while sparkling water makes me full.
    - fallat 4y ago
      Exactly what I mean - your mind associates sweet = calories. It's just a matter of time until the association degrades. (Source: me)
      - galangalalgol 4y ago
        Ah, that makes sense, but you'd have to avoid anything sweet with calories to keep the connection broken right?
        fallat 4y ago
        No, when you encounter something contradictory your mind goes from 'all sweet things are calorie dense' to 'not all sweet things are calorie dense' :)
- Mistletoe 4y ago
  Your results match the animal studies very well. When you give rats artificial sweetener in their water and free access to all the food they could want they eat more than rats given plain water. The sweet taste seems to stimulate appetite and feeding beyond normal needs. It’s not hard to see how American obesity keeps increasing given even this one simple experiment.

> It is well-known that all currently available non-caloric sweeteners increase cardiometabolic risks. I'd honestly like to hear more about this, thank you in advance.

galangalalgol 4y ago

As would I. I keep reading so much conflicting evidence. All I know is that every sweetener I've ever used made me hungrier than if I didn't use it, and made me want more. I haven't tried those berries that make sour things taste sweet yet, curious about that.

fallat 4y ago
Why wouldnt it? You're used to the calories in your drink. Ive drank a coke zero almost every other day for a year. Maybe at first you will feel this but it's your body adjusting for what it expected. Calories in, calories out. If there are any questions about my state / behaviors let me know!
- galangalalgol 4y ago
  Oh, I meant having something sweet regardless of why makes me hungrier vs something that isn't sweet. So black coffee doesn't make me hungry like stevia in coffee does. And diet dr peoper makes me hungry, while sparkling water makes me full.
  - fallat 4y ago
    Exactly what I mean - your mind associates sweet = calories. It's just a matter of time until the association degrades. (Source: me)
    - galangalalgol 4y ago
      Ah, that makes sense, but you'd have to avoid anything sweet with calories to keep the connection broken right?
      - fallat 4y ago
        No, when you encounter something contradictory your mind goes from 'all sweet things are calorie dense' to 'not all sweet things are calorie dense' :)
Mistletoe 4y ago
Your results match the animal studies very well. When you give rats artificial sweetener in their water and free access to all the food they could want they eat more than rats given plain water. The sweet taste seems to stimulate appetite and feeding beyond normal needs. It’s not hard to see how American obesity keeps increasing given even this one simple experiment.