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You're making the assumption that photographers are concerned about the same use cases as you are. Without addressing their need for using Flash, you cannot beg

You're making the assumption that photographers are concerned about the same use cases as you are. Without addressing their need for using Flash, you cannot begin a conversation about why it's a horrible and obsolete choice, never mind provide an adequate solution moving forward.

chc 15y ago
If you have an objection to using standard technologies, why don't you voice it instead of just berating people because objections might exist?
- jsavimbi 15y ago
  I'm not berating anyone. What I'm voicing is neither an objection nor an approval for one choice of technology over another. What I'm saying is that the author of the post, without any admitted experience or knowledge deems themselves so adept as to ask an entire industry segment to abandon the use of a technology without providing any sound logic behind their request or viable alternatives. I know they shouldn't be using Flash; I've been berating people about that for over a decade. But even so, as a technologist I cannot offer a solution to that particular segment without knowing the root cause of their particular choice, their present requirements nor the necessity of a photographer engaging in a venture that for all I know won't provide them any return or benefit. I find it presumptuous to know what's best for someone else without even knowing the root causes of their alleged problem, especially artists who by virtue of their business model have more to lose than gain by presenting their work in an inferior portfolio format. There will be some who'll find a solution that fits them best and other who'll keep paying the hosting and update fees until they've become tired and lose interest. It's the nature of the beast. All told, there will be less developers with Flash abilities moving forward and the public will become more educated, so who knows, maybe the problem will solve itself.
lemming 15y ago
I didn't say it was horrible or obsolete, or anything about my use cases. What is clear is that the OP, who is clearly a photographer, can't use Flash for perfectly valid use cases for him, as a photographer. I think his article is a little OTT since the solution to his problem is simple - don't use Flash. In fact, the whole article is about how he doesn't actually have a problem because he doesn't use Flash, and I'm not sure why he feels the need to exhort all other photographers to do the same, but each to their own. But his reasons for not using it are perfectly valid and based on a valid use case for photographers.

chc 15y ago

If you have an objection to using standard technologies, why don't you voice it instead of just berating people because objections might exist?

jsavimbi 15y ago
I'm not berating anyone. What I'm voicing is neither an objection nor an approval for one choice of technology over another. What I'm saying is that the author of the post, without any admitted experience or knowledge deems themselves so adept as to ask an entire industry segment to abandon the use of a technology without providing any sound logic behind their request or viable alternatives. I know they shouldn't be using Flash; I've been berating people about that for over a decade. But even so, as a technologist I cannot offer a solution to that particular segment without knowing the root cause of their particular choice, their present requirements nor the necessity of a photographer engaging in a venture that for all I know won't provide them any return or benefit. I find it presumptuous to know what's best for someone else without even knowing the root causes of their alleged problem, especially artists who by virtue of their business model have more to lose than gain by presenting their work in an inferior portfolio format. There will be some who'll find a solution that fits them best and other who'll keep paying the hosting and update fees until they've become tired and lose interest. It's the nature of the beast. All told, there will be less developers with Flash abilities moving forward and the public will become more educated, so who knows, maybe the problem will solve itself.

lemming 15y ago

I didn't say it was horrible or obsolete, or anything about my use cases. What is clear is that the OP, who is clearly a photographer, can't use Flash for perfectly valid use cases for him, as a photographer. I think his article is a little OTT since the solution to his problem is simple - don't use Flash. In fact, the whole article is about how he doesn't actually have a problem because he doesn't use Flash, and I'm not sure why he feels the need to exhort all other photographers to do the same, but each to their own. But his reasons for not using it are perfectly valid and based on a valid use case for photographers.