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The more interesting event to me is that the balance of evidence on MLK’s assassination shows that he was murdered in an operation coordinated between the FBI a

The more interesting event to me is that the balance of evidence on MLK’s assassination shows that he was murdered in an operation coordinated between the FBI and the Memphis police and mafia.

082349872349872 4y ago
He had been proposing levying the mutual-assistance form of economic sanctions: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34013751 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34013751 , after all.
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dwater 4y ago
To those downvoting because they think this comment is baseless: "The Loyd Jowers Trial (officially the King family vs. Loyd Jowers and other unknown co-conspirators) was an American civil suit brought by the family of Martin Luther King Jr. against Loyd Jowers, following his claims of a conspiracy in the assassination of the civil rights leader in 1968. The jury would eventually decide in 1999 that there was a conspiracy perpetrated by Jowers and other conspirators." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loyd_Jowers_trial https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loyd_Jowers_trial
- Aunche 4y ago
  Regardless of the merits of the MLK assassination conspiracy theory, this trial definitely discredits the theory more than it helps. It's clear that it was designed to be a public spectacle. Jowers had continuously changed his story prior to this trial. The FBI certainly didn't pay the equivalent of nearly a million present-day dollars to a random restaurateur, to help them kill a completely unguarded civilian.
  - sonotathrowaway 4y ago
    Claiming he was unguarded conveniently ignores some very relevant details. Like the fact MLK was guarded by a contingent of black Memphis policemen every time he visited Memphis. On the visit he was murdered, those policemen were pulled from that guard duty for reasons never explained. There’s a very good podcast, The MLK Files, investigating the conspiracy surrounding his killing - one of those black policemen was interviewed on the podcast, along with many other people. Some other inconvenient facts about his assassination are the facts that the rifle claimed to be used in the killing is physically incapable of firing the bullet that killed MLK, a fact recorded in the FBI ballistics report along with a note that the gun should never be re-tested. The other interesting fact is the man convicted of the killing adamantly denies pulling the trigger, but acknowledges being part of the conspiracy- which is why he pled guilty. Prior to the killing he escaped from jail, and was provided a fake US passport by other conspirators to help him smuggle items from Canada to the US. And this is only scratching the surface, there is so much more documented information on the killing, like the relationship between Hoover’s #2 and his known relationship with the Dixie Mafia that dominated Memphis at the time. Since you seem to have a familiarity with Jowers, I’d encourage you to listen to the podcast. Jowers testimony is discussed, but it is far from the only piece of evidence examined. It’s not even the main evidence cited, there are a lot of other witnesses whose testimony was never examined or who were threatened into silence.
    - ceejayoz 4y ago
      > Some other inconvenient facts about his assassination are the facts that the rifle claimed to be used in the killing is physically incapable of firing the bullet that killed MLK, a fact recorded in the FBI ballistics report along with a note that the gun should never be re-tested. These are the sorts of facts that would heavily benefit from a reputable citation. The closest thing to your assertion on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Kennedy_assassination_rifle#FBI_tests https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Kennedy_assassination_... is that it'd be hard to sight because of some missing metal shims, which may've been lost while in FBI posession rather than in Oswald's.
      - sonotathrowaway 4y ago
- pseudo0 4y ago
  So they sued the guy claiming the conspiracy existed, not the government, because the government would have mounted a real defense? That trial sounds like a farce, as the two parties were in agreement and just wanted that conclusion on the record.
- steve76 4y ago
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The more interesting event to me is that the balance of evidence on MLK’s assassination shows that he was murdered in an operation coordinated between the FBI and the Memphis police and mafia.

082349872349872 4y ago

He had been proposing levying the mutual-assistance form of economic sanctions: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34013751 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34013751 , after all.

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dwater 4y ago

To those downvoting because they think this comment is baseless: "The Loyd Jowers Trial (officially the King family vs. Loyd Jowers and other unknown co-conspirators) was an American civil suit brought by the family of Martin Luther King Jr. against Loyd Jowers, following his claims of a conspiracy in the assassination of the civil rights leader in 1968. The jury would eventually decide in 1999 that there was a conspiracy perpetrated by Jowers and other conspirators." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loyd_Jowers_trial https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loyd_Jowers_trial

Aunche 4y ago
Regardless of the merits of the MLK assassination conspiracy theory, this trial definitely discredits the theory more than it helps. It's clear that it was designed to be a public spectacle. Jowers had continuously changed his story prior to this trial. The FBI certainly didn't pay the equivalent of nearly a million present-day dollars to a random restaurateur, to help them kill a completely unguarded civilian.
- sonotathrowaway 4y ago
  Claiming he was unguarded conveniently ignores some very relevant details. Like the fact MLK was guarded by a contingent of black Memphis policemen every time he visited Memphis. On the visit he was murdered, those policemen were pulled from that guard duty for reasons never explained. There’s a very good podcast, The MLK Files, investigating the conspiracy surrounding his killing - one of those black policemen was interviewed on the podcast, along with many other people. Some other inconvenient facts about his assassination are the facts that the rifle claimed to be used in the killing is physically incapable of firing the bullet that killed MLK, a fact recorded in the FBI ballistics report along with a note that the gun should never be re-tested. The other interesting fact is the man convicted of the killing adamantly denies pulling the trigger, but acknowledges being part of the conspiracy- which is why he pled guilty. Prior to the killing he escaped from jail, and was provided a fake US passport by other conspirators to help him smuggle items from Canada to the US. And this is only scratching the surface, there is so much more documented information on the killing, like the relationship between Hoover’s #2 and his known relationship with the Dixie Mafia that dominated Memphis at the time. Since you seem to have a familiarity with Jowers, I’d encourage you to listen to the podcast. Jowers testimony is discussed, but it is far from the only piece of evidence examined. It’s not even the main evidence cited, there are a lot of other witnesses whose testimony was never examined or who were threatened into silence.
  - ceejayoz 4y ago
    > Some other inconvenient facts about his assassination are the facts that the rifle claimed to be used in the killing is physically incapable of firing the bullet that killed MLK, a fact recorded in the FBI ballistics report along with a note that the gun should never be re-tested. These are the sorts of facts that would heavily benefit from a reputable citation. The closest thing to your assertion on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Kennedy_assassination_rifle#FBI_tests https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Kennedy_assassination_... is that it'd be hard to sight because of some missing metal shims, which may've been lost while in FBI posession rather than in Oswald's.
    - sonotathrowaway 4y ago
pseudo0 4y ago
So they sued the guy claiming the conspiracy existed, not the government, because the government would have mounted a real defense? That trial sounds like a farce, as the two parties were in agreement and just wanted that conclusion on the record.
steve76 4y ago
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