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I had a friend working as a project manager for company using oracle, i asked him the same question, he said they looked into it - if they could get rid of 100m

I had a friend working as a project manager for company using oracle, i asked him the same question, he said they looked into it - if they could get rid of 100m bill they would be happy to use anything else but some functionality was not really there.

eliaspro 4y ago
It'd be probably a fraction of the costs to hire competent developers to implement the missing features in PostgreSQL.
- xmcqdpt2 4y ago
  Given this is the platform we interact on, you are likely a competent developer right? Would you apply for that job? Non-tech company seeking competent developers to move 100s of thousands of lines of code and sql scripts written by juniors over twenty years from Oracle to Postgres. Must have plenty of Oracle experience but also Postgres experience. Will have to coordinate with DBAs across business units and coerce them to help you in (eventually) axing them. There is no amount of money that would get me to sign up! And also I wouldn't trust the current team to interview and recruit competent developers!
  - twodave 4y ago
    Heck yeah I'd sign up for that! Honestly, this is the kind of work that can sustain an entire consulting firm. - It's specialized, so you can charge more for it. And I mean come on, we're saving you millions of dollars. I can charge you a LOT and everyone still wins. - It's repetitive, so you can train people to do it and then start earning margins as they replicate the process across the organization. - It's even fulfilling. Yeah, I said it. Would you rather go work on another to-do app in [pick an obscure fruit or animal]-framework for your blog? Count me out of _that_ crap. Any Oracle DB you work on in the wild is going to have an impact on thousands of people--a positive one if you do your job well.
  - jeltz 4y ago
    Yes, I would sign up! That sounds like a fun job which pays well. I love that kind of jobs.
homeland221 4y ago
"Project manager". That says it all. Do you think existing oracle DBAs willing to assist to kill their cushy jobs? Even if not complete replacement, partial replacement like postgresql would easily slash that 100m bill by several millions.....more than enough to hire developers to replicate those missing features.
- sidlls 4y ago
  I'm not defending Oracle here--far from it, as their sales and follow-up audits when you ask for support are purely predatory--but a tiny fraction of companies are in a business where "hire developers" is a feasible or reasonable approach to a problem. You might argue that software runs everything, so every company of a size where it's reasonable to even consider something like Oracle is in that business whether they want to be or not, but that's just not how it works.
cypress66 4y ago
There is basically 0% chance that they are doing something so unique that it is impossible to be done or workarounded with other databases.
- gus_massa 4y ago
  I agree, but each migration has a small risk of introducing bugs. Sometimes subtle bugs. Who is going to be blamed?

eliaspro 4y ago

It'd be probably a fraction of the costs to hire competent developers to implement the missing features in PostgreSQL.

xmcqdpt2 4y ago
Given this is the platform we interact on, you are likely a competent developer right? Would you apply for that job? Non-tech company seeking competent developers to move 100s of thousands of lines of code and sql scripts written by juniors over twenty years from Oracle to Postgres. Must have plenty of Oracle experience but also Postgres experience. Will have to coordinate with DBAs across business units and coerce them to help you in (eventually) axing them. There is no amount of money that would get me to sign up! And also I wouldn't trust the current team to interview and recruit competent developers!
- twodave 4y ago
  Heck yeah I'd sign up for that! Honestly, this is the kind of work that can sustain an entire consulting firm. - It's specialized, so you can charge more for it. And I mean come on, we're saving you millions of dollars. I can charge you a LOT and everyone still wins. - It's repetitive, so you can train people to do it and then start earning margins as they replicate the process across the organization. - It's even fulfilling. Yeah, I said it. Would you rather go work on another to-do app in [pick an obscure fruit or animal]-framework for your blog? Count me out of _that_ crap. Any Oracle DB you work on in the wild is going to have an impact on thousands of people--a positive one if you do your job well.
- jeltz 4y ago
  Yes, I would sign up! That sounds like a fun job which pays well. I love that kind of jobs.

homeland221 4y ago

"Project manager". That says it all. Do you think existing oracle DBAs willing to assist to kill their cushy jobs? Even if not complete replacement, partial replacement like postgresql would easily slash that 100m bill by several millions.....more than enough to hire developers to replicate those missing features.

sidlls 4y ago
I'm not defending Oracle here--far from it, as their sales and follow-up audits when you ask for support are purely predatory--but a tiny fraction of companies are in a business where "hire developers" is a feasible or reasonable approach to a problem. You might argue that software runs everything, so every company of a size where it's reasonable to even consider something like Oracle is in that business whether they want to be or not, but that's just not how it works.

cypress66 4y ago

There is basically 0% chance that they are doing something so unique that it is impossible to be done or workarounded with other databases.

gus_massa 4y ago
I agree, but each migration has a small risk of introducing bugs. Sometimes subtle bugs. Who is going to be blamed?