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HN is owned by YCombinator. They must not annoy their (potential) business partners.

by trasz2 4y ago

dang 4y ago
We don't moderate HN that way, as anyone can tell for themselves by looking at HN. There isn't any "business partner" who wouldn't have been "alienated" years ago by such shitty "moderation". (Btw, the only "business partners" that I know YC to be interested in are prospective startup founders who hopefully will apply and get funded. That's who YC's success depends on.) You've been breaking the site guidelines badly, in exactly the way we banned https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=trasz https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=trasz for: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33265609 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33265609 (Oct 2022) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33265508 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33265508 (Oct 2022) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33254262 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33254262 (Oct 2022) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33013513 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33013513 (Sept 2022) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33005522 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33005522 (Sept 2022) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32279647 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32279647 (July 2022) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29916978 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29916978 (Jan 2022) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29687837 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29687837 (Dec 2021) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27751799 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27751799 (July 2021) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23578442 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23578442 (June 2020) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23578435 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23578435 (June 2020) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23578417 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23578417 (June 2020) When we ban an account and someone immediately creates a new account to carry on in the same way, obviously we have to ban that one too. Therefore I've banned this one too. Making sinister-vague criticisms of HN/YC doesn't change this, even though people love to do it because then they get to say "aha! see what they do to critics?!!". Similarly, pre-posting excuses in your profile ("Soon to be banned for pointing out that HN condones racism"!!) doesn't change this, even though people love to do that too because then they get to say "see? just as I predicted!" Obviously we can't be influenced by that kind of thing because if we let any of them work, it would be a license to break HN's rules with impunity. Fortunately the community is fair-minded and can look through comment histories to decide for themselves whether an account was breaking the rules. Your accounts have been breaking the rules so badly that (a) I don't think we have a choice, and (b) I'm not worried about the community verdict. Btw, I don't want to ban you at all and would be much happier to persuade you to just contribute to HN in a positive way, despite how limited and annoying it is. Believe me, I'm frustrated by its limitations too. I can't help but imagine that if we could sit down and actually talk about all this, it would not be so hard to agree. It's true that a lot of things that you don't like about HN (or Americans, or religious people, or racists, or any of the other groups that you've posted flamewar comments about) do actually exist. But in HN's case at least, it's not true that they have the weight that you ascribe to them. Rather, they exist as part of a statistical cloud, and there are a lot of things in that cloud, some of them are bad and distasteful and all of them show up here. It's an inevitable dynamic that we're all trying to deal with. There's no agenda to propagate those things. Unfortunately we can't sit down and talk because we're limited to exchanging tiny text blobs through small internet pipes like prisoners passing notes through a crack in a cell wall. So I don't suppose I have much chance of persuading you, though I'd certainly like to try.
- trasz2 4y ago
  Banned for pointing out that you are lying about your moderation policy, nice!

HN is owned by YCombinator. They must not annoy their (potential) business partners.

by trasz2 4y ago

HN is owned by YCombinator. They must not annoy their (potential) business partners.

dang 4y ago

We don't moderate HN that way, as anyone can tell for themselves by looking at HN. There isn't any "business partner" who wouldn't have been "alienated" years ago by such shitty "moderation". (Btw, the only "business partners" that I know YC to be interested in are prospective startup founders who hopefully will apply and get funded. That's who YC's success depends on.) You've been breaking the site guidelines badly, in exactly the way we banned https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=trasz https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=trasz for: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33265609 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33265609 (Oct 2022) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33265508 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33265508 (Oct 2022) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33254262 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33254262 (Oct 2022) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33013513 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33013513 (Sept 2022) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33005522 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33005522 (Sept 2022) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32279647 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32279647 (July 2022) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29916978 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29916978 (Jan 2022) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29687837 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29687837 (Dec 2021) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27751799 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27751799 (July 2021) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23578442 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23578442 (June 2020) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23578435 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23578435 (June 2020) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23578417 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23578417 (June 2020) When we ban an account and someone immediately creates a new account to carry on in the same way, obviously we have to ban that one too. Therefore I've banned this one too. Making sinister-vague criticisms of HN/YC doesn't change this, even though people love to do it because then they get to say "aha! see what they do to critics?!!". Similarly, pre-posting excuses in your profile ("Soon to be banned for pointing out that HN condones racism"!!) doesn't change this, even though people love to do that too because then they get to say "see? just as I predicted!" Obviously we can't be influenced by that kind of thing because if we let any of them work, it would be a license to break HN's rules with impunity. Fortunately the community is fair-minded and can look through comment histories to decide for themselves whether an account was breaking the rules. Your accounts have been breaking the rules so badly that (a) I don't think we have a choice, and (b) I'm not worried about the community verdict. Btw, I don't want to ban you at all and would be much happier to persuade you to just contribute to HN in a positive way, despite how limited and annoying it is. Believe me, I'm frustrated by its limitations too. I can't help but imagine that if we could sit down and actually talk about all this, it would not be so hard to agree. It's true that a lot of things that you don't like about HN (or Americans, or religious people, or racists, or any of the other groups that you've posted flamewar comments about) do actually exist. But in HN's case at least, it's not true that they have the weight that you ascribe to them. Rather, they exist as part of a statistical cloud, and there are a lot of things in that cloud, some of them are bad and distasteful and all of them show up here. It's an inevitable dynamic that we're all trying to deal with. There's no agenda to propagate those things. Unfortunately we can't sit down and talk because we're limited to exchanging tiny text blobs through small internet pipes like prisoners passing notes through a crack in a cell wall. So I don't suppose I have much chance of persuading you, though I'd certainly like to try.

trasz2 4y ago
Banned for pointing out that you are lying about your moderation policy, nice!