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>But not all of these were "unwanted". Many women are pressured into abortion by abusive, manipulative, cowardly, and responsibility-shirking men. So if they d

>But not all of these were "unwanted". Many women are pressured into abortion by abusive, manipulative, cowardly, and responsibility-shirking men. So if they didn't abort, how exactly were these children going to be raised? By homeless single mothers now that the cowardly, responsibility-shirking men have left them? You seem to think that preventing abortion will magically turn accidental parents into good parents. >We'll never know how many diseases would have been cured by now We'll also never know how many people who made big contributions would have been murdered by unwanted, abused, and neglected children who grew up to become criminals.

odysseus 4y ago
I agree it's difficult to care for an impoverished child. My mom was a single mother that was close to becoming homeless, and we both survived. There are many free resources for single mothers. (for example, WIC, a program that provides nutritious free food for Women, Infants, and Children) But imagine a two-year old child in front of you. His mother is poor and feels she cannot care for him. He lives in the slums of a country where children cannot be adopted. Should his mother be allowed to kill him? > We'll also never know how many people who made big contributions would have been murdered by unwanted, abused, and neglected children who grew up to become criminals. It's probably true that if we kill impoverished unwanted toddlers, future crime rates could potentially decline. That doesn't make it moral to do so.
- midoridensha 4y ago
  So basically you want to condemn countless women to being forced to living in poverty and raising children in poverty, while letting men off scot-free. Bodily autonomy means absolutely nothing to you, because to you, women's only real role in life is as an incubator. Nice values you have there.

odysseus 4y ago

I agree it's difficult to care for an impoverished child. My mom was a single mother that was close to becoming homeless, and we both survived. There are many free resources for single mothers. (for example, WIC, a program that provides nutritious free food for Women, Infants, and Children) But imagine a two-year old child in front of you. His mother is poor and feels she cannot care for him. He lives in the slums of a country where children cannot be adopted. Should his mother be allowed to kill him? > We'll also never know how many people who made big contributions would have been murdered by unwanted, abused, and neglected children who grew up to become criminals. It's probably true that if we kill impoverished unwanted toddlers, future crime rates could potentially decline. That doesn't make it moral to do so.

midoridensha 4y ago
So basically you want to condemn countless women to being forced to living in poverty and raising children in poverty, while letting men off scot-free. Bodily autonomy means absolutely nothing to you, because to you, women's only real role in life is as an incubator. Nice values you have there.