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The problem is that because he owns a jet, any passenger on it is at risk. That’s why his son was accosted by a crazy stalker. I find it absurd how many people

by chroma 4y ago

The problem is that because he owns a jet, any passenger on it is at risk. That’s why his son was accosted by a crazy stalker. I find it absurd how many people are against automated license plate readers (even privately owned ones) but simultaneously welcome the complete lack of privacy for aircraft. If someone replied, “Just use a taxi/Uber/Lyft.” in response to ALPRs they’d be downvoted into obscurity, and rightly so. But change the transport mechanism and suddenly it’s fair. The hypocrisy could not be more obvious.

mullingitover 4y ago
It's not a real problem for Elon. He's not posting about any serious concerns for his safety. He's posting "I love Barbara Streisand lol" and "Twitter right now is (four fire emoji)" He created this 'problem' out of nothing. It's an act. If he feared for his family's safety there are ways to tackle the problem that aren't purely performative.
- chroma 4y ago
  Did you miss the tweet where he talked about a crazy stalker jumping on the hood of a car that Elon's son was in?[1] Or the fact that the FAA gives Elon's jet a PIA, but Jack Sweeney brags about being able to get around that privacy protection?[2] What would it take to change your mind about this? There have already been close calls. Would someone actually have to harm Musk or his family? And you didn't address my ALPR analogy at all. Why does it matter whether the mode of transportation is a car or a plane? 1. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944 2. https://twitter.com/DavidSacks/status/1603857524574531584 https://twitter.com/DavidSacks/status/1603857524574531584
  - mullingitover 4y ago
    I did not miss that tweet, nor did I miss this one[1] that seems to geolocate that video the video and found it nowhere near an airport. In addition, that incident was on December 13th. Elonjet posted his plane landed in LA in December 12th[2], a full day before that went down. Not seeing any evidence at all that this was connected to what ElonJet posted. There's also no context in that video, it's just a clip of a person in a car. I do not take Elon's word for anything, he's demonstrated over and over and over that he will act in bad faith. The one party he probably would/should not lie to, the police, doesn't seem to have any report from him about this event. [1] https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins/status/1603454821700452365 https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins/status/1603454821700452365 [2] https://www.facebook.com/ElonJet/posts/pfbid02Ldh5x93kQe6E6EPxiAPc7yuTnyka5vAB9kXJ6uv1MnURcx4fa3bB55hZW43kZ32Yl https://www.facebook.com/ElonJet/posts/pfbid02Ldh5x93kQe6E6E...
smileysteve 4y ago
You're on to something with automated license plate readers. They exist, as do apps that take pictures and videos and aggregate the license plate numbers. Credit card transactions also aren't protected from marketing tracking activities, neither are Twitter or Facebook ads, neither is what my isp can discover from my dns requests, cell phone providers can sell my location metadata, and the credit bureaus are ordinary businesses with huge data leaks. This is public information, police can operate on it without a warrant, and whether we're driving, flying a private jet, walking in a town square, or purchasing a coffee, or browse the internet - other private entities can too. LifeLock and identity theft protection are sold to everybody, tax forms allow anybody to try to use someone else's number - the government refuses to do anything, and companies have minimum privacy + security requirements.

by chroma 4y ago

mullingitover 4y ago

It's not a real problem for Elon. He's not posting about any serious concerns for his safety. He's posting "I love Barbara Streisand lol" and "Twitter right now is (four fire emoji)" He created this 'problem' out of nothing. It's an act. If he feared for his family's safety there are ways to tackle the problem that aren't purely performative.

chroma 4y ago
Did you miss the tweet where he talked about a crazy stalker jumping on the hood of a car that Elon's son was in?[1] Or the fact that the FAA gives Elon's jet a PIA, but Jack Sweeney brags about being able to get around that privacy protection?[2] What would it take to change your mind about this? There have already been close calls. Would someone actually have to harm Musk or his family? And you didn't address my ALPR analogy at all. Why does it matter whether the mode of transportation is a car or a plane? 1. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944 2. https://twitter.com/DavidSacks/status/1603857524574531584 https://twitter.com/DavidSacks/status/1603857524574531584
- mullingitover 4y ago
  I did not miss that tweet, nor did I miss this one[1] that seems to geolocate that video the video and found it nowhere near an airport. In addition, that incident was on December 13th. Elonjet posted his plane landed in LA in December 12th[2], a full day before that went down. Not seeing any evidence at all that this was connected to what ElonJet posted. There's also no context in that video, it's just a clip of a person in a car. I do not take Elon's word for anything, he's demonstrated over and over and over that he will act in bad faith. The one party he probably would/should not lie to, the police, doesn't seem to have any report from him about this event. [1] https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins/status/1603454821700452365 https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins/status/1603454821700452365 [2] https://www.facebook.com/ElonJet/posts/pfbid02Ldh5x93kQe6E6EPxiAPc7yuTnyka5vAB9kXJ6uv1MnURcx4fa3bB55hZW43kZ32Yl https://www.facebook.com/ElonJet/posts/pfbid02Ldh5x93kQe6E6E...

smileysteve 4y ago

You're on to something with automated license plate readers. They exist, as do apps that take pictures and videos and aggregate the license plate numbers. Credit card transactions also aren't protected from marketing tracking activities, neither are Twitter or Facebook ads, neither is what my isp can discover from my dns requests, cell phone providers can sell my location metadata, and the credit bureaus are ordinary businesses with huge data leaks. This is public information, police can operate on it without a warrant, and whether we're driving, flying a private jet, walking in a town square, or purchasing a coffee, or browse the internet - other private entities can too. LifeLock and identity theft protection are sold to everybody, tax forms allow anybody to try to use someone else's number - the government refuses to do anything, and companies have minimum privacy + security requirements.