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So they should facilitate losing their own users? And people think that it's somehow bad that they won't go along with it? I'm pretty sure YouTube won't let you

by proc0 4y ago

So they should facilitate losing their own users? And people think that it's somehow bad that they won't go along with it? I'm pretty sure YouTube won't let you advertise other video platforms in videos. It defeats the purpose of the platform, and it's a dumb ask. Obviously they will not allow that to the best of their abilities.

kybernetikos 4y ago
That depends on what the purpose of the platform is, and since the owner had previously made a point of being keen on free speech, it's interesting that it's actually not being run in line with those ideals at all. We're now seeing that the carve outs from free speech include things that might reduce profit, and the reposting of public flight data.
- proc0 4y ago
  Yeah but then no one believes in free speech. It was much worse before, and the people who are leaving Twitter were the ones (presumably) justifying that other censorship. My perspective is that at least now it's out in the open.
- q1w2 4y ago
  The irony is that the people complaining about Elon's censorship were pro-censorship before his takeover.
  - torben-friis 4y ago
    Why? I am very much in favor of premarital sex, but if the Pope is seen tomorrow in an orgy I'll certainly point the hypocrisy.
LightHugger 4y ago
youtube lets you advertise other video platforms and always has, what are you talking about?
- proc0 4y ago
  What about this? https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/3364658?hl=en https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/3364658?hl=en
smoe 4y ago
Plenty of Youtubers with millions of subscribers regularly advertise their content on other video platforms such as Nebula. Doesn't seem to be an issue.
- sebazzz 4y ago
  Would it be an issue if YouTube took offense to that and added a clause to the ToS to disallow it?
  - smoe 4y ago
    At least for the creators I follow, they use alternative platforms for additional content (not replacement for their YT videos) for things that don't perform so well trough the YT algorithms like long form, in-depth videos that are less advertiser friendly than pure infotainment, and e.g. music educators doing song analysis which is too risky to do on YT although to my understanding it falls perfectly under the fair use doctrine. I don't even see them as competing platforms, they offer very different products via the same medium. Legally, I don't know if having such ToS would be a problem, but as a user I would find it extremely frustrating to not have to ability to discover content that YT seemingly doesn't want to focus on itself.

by proc0 4y ago

kybernetikos 4y ago

That depends on what the purpose of the platform is, and since the owner had previously made a point of being keen on free speech, it's interesting that it's actually not being run in line with those ideals at all. We're now seeing that the carve outs from free speech include things that might reduce profit, and the reposting of public flight data.

proc0 4y ago
Yeah but then no one believes in free speech. It was much worse before, and the people who are leaving Twitter were the ones (presumably) justifying that other censorship. My perspective is that at least now it's out in the open.
q1w2 4y ago
The irony is that the people complaining about Elon's censorship were pro-censorship before his takeover.
- torben-friis 4y ago
  Why? I am very much in favor of premarital sex, but if the Pope is seen tomorrow in an orgy I'll certainly point the hypocrisy.

LightHugger 4y ago

youtube lets you advertise other video platforms and always has, what are you talking about?

proc0 4y ago
What about this? https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/3364658?hl=en https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/3364658?hl=en

smoe 4y ago

Plenty of Youtubers with millions of subscribers regularly advertise their content on other video platforms such as Nebula. Doesn't seem to be an issue.

sebazzz 4y ago
Would it be an issue if YouTube took offense to that and added a clause to the ToS to disallow it?
- smoe 4y ago
  At least for the creators I follow, they use alternative platforms for additional content (not replacement for their YT videos) for things that don't perform so well trough the YT algorithms like long form, in-depth videos that are less advertiser friendly than pure infotainment, and e.g. music educators doing song analysis which is too risky to do on YT although to my understanding it falls perfectly under the fair use doctrine. I don't even see them as competing platforms, they offer very different products via the same medium. Legally, I don't know if having such ToS would be a problem, but as a user I would find it extremely frustrating to not have to ability to discover content that YT seemingly doesn't want to focus on itself.