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> People had to do some sleuthing. The entirety of my sleuthing: google "site:faa.gov elon musk registration" That gave me the tail number and ICAO code in th

> People had to do some sleuthing. The entirety of my sleuthing: google "site:faa.gov elon musk registration" That gave me the tail number and ICAO code in the first result. I had no idea what I was even looking for, just that I probably needed "site:faa.gov" - it worked on the first try. I'm working on my pilot's license so maybe I'm an outlier. I even knew that the FAA was in charge of aviation! :-)

nearbuy 4y ago
I'm not sure how Google has associated that page to Musk, but notice that Musk's name is nowhere on that page. I suspect Google is able to associate that record to Musk because of the sleuthing people have done. Likely there are links to that page that identify it as Musk's jet.
- akiselev 4y ago
  Look at the registered owner: FALCON LANDING LLC located at 1 ROCKET RD, HAWTHORNE, CA (Guess what other business is at 1 Rocket Rd on Google Maps) It wouldn't take much word association to connect the two without human involvement. It doesn't matter to the purpose of this discussion though, since Google has created this association it's available to everyone.
  - nearbuy 4y ago
    If you're talking about tracking his jet today, then you don't even have to work that hard (or even know what the FAA is). Just googling "Musk jet number" or "Musk jet tracker" will find his jet. This information is plastered all over the internet. That's not going away. But it's all over the net because someone, possibly @elonjet, originally figured out it was his jet and posted it online. That made it easier for people to find his jet, and that is a security concern for Musk. I'm not saying this information was originally super hard to uncover for someone who knew what to do. I'm saying there is some increased security risk now that this information is easily accessible. I think most of us would be uncomfortable with being tracked live in his situation.
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    - mullingitover 4y ago
      It's not a security concern. If this was actually a security threat, the man could take chartered flights anonymously forever with a rounding error's worth of his money. Opsec is clearly not important to him. It's the Elon show. He needs the attention and doesn't care if it's positive or negative.
      - chroma 4y ago
        The problem is that because he owns a jet, any passenger on it is at risk. That’s why his son was accosted by a crazy stalker. I find it absurd how many people are against automated license plate readers (even privately owned ones) but simultaneously welcome the complete lack of privacy for aircraft. If someone replied, “Just use a taxi/Uber/Lyft.” in response to ALPRs they’d be downvoted into obscurity, and rightly so. But change the transport mechanism and suddenly it’s fair. The hypocrisy could not be more obvious.
        mullingitover 4y ago
        It's not a real problem for Elon. He's not posting about any serious concerns for his safety. He's posting "I love Barbara Streisand lol" and "Twitter right now is (four fire emoji)" He created this 'problem' out of nothing. It's an act. If he feared for his family's safety there are ways to tackle the problem that aren't purely performative.
        chroma 4y ago
        Did you miss the tweet where he talked about a crazy stalker jumping on the hood of a car that Elon's son was in?[1] Or the fact that the FAA gives Elon's jet a PIA, but Jack Sweeney brags about being able to get around that privacy protection?[2] What would it take to change your mind about this? There have already been close calls. Would someone actually have to harm Musk or his family? And you didn't address my ALPR analogy at all. Why does it matter whether the mode of transportation is a car or a plane? 1. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944 2. https://twitter.com/DavidSacks/status/1603857524574531584 https://twitter.com/DavidSacks/status/1603857524574531584
- mcv 4y ago
  Sounds like yet another strike against Google regarding privacy.
  - rbanffy 4y ago
    A public figure that enjoys economic and political power does not have the same privacy protections as you or me.

nearbuy 4y ago

I'm not sure how Google has associated that page to Musk, but notice that Musk's name is nowhere on that page. I suspect Google is able to associate that record to Musk because of the sleuthing people have done. Likely there are links to that page that identify it as Musk's jet.

akiselev 4y ago
Look at the registered owner: FALCON LANDING LLC located at 1 ROCKET RD, HAWTHORNE, CA (Guess what other business is at 1 Rocket Rd on Google Maps) It wouldn't take much word association to connect the two without human involvement. It doesn't matter to the purpose of this discussion though, since Google has created this association it's available to everyone.
- nearbuy 4y ago
  If you're talking about tracking his jet today, then you don't even have to work that hard (or even know what the FAA is). Just googling "Musk jet number" or "Musk jet tracker" will find his jet. This information is plastered all over the internet. That's not going away. But it's all over the net because someone, possibly @elonjet, originally figured out it was his jet and posted it online. That made it easier for people to find his jet, and that is a security concern for Musk. I'm not saying this information was originally super hard to uncover for someone who knew what to do. I'm saying there is some increased security risk now that this information is easily accessible. I think most of us would be uncomfortable with being tracked live in his situation.
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  - mullingitover 4y ago
    It's not a security concern. If this was actually a security threat, the man could take chartered flights anonymously forever with a rounding error's worth of his money. Opsec is clearly not important to him. It's the Elon show. He needs the attention and doesn't care if it's positive or negative.
    - chroma 4y ago
      The problem is that because he owns a jet, any passenger on it is at risk. That’s why his son was accosted by a crazy stalker. I find it absurd how many people are against automated license plate readers (even privately owned ones) but simultaneously welcome the complete lack of privacy for aircraft. If someone replied, “Just use a taxi/Uber/Lyft.” in response to ALPRs they’d be downvoted into obscurity, and rightly so. But change the transport mechanism and suddenly it’s fair. The hypocrisy could not be more obvious.
      - mullingitover 4y ago
        It's not a real problem for Elon. He's not posting about any serious concerns for his safety. He's posting "I love Barbara Streisand lol" and "Twitter right now is (four fire emoji)" He created this 'problem' out of nothing. It's an act. If he feared for his family's safety there are ways to tackle the problem that aren't purely performative.
        chroma 4y ago
        Did you miss the tweet where he talked about a crazy stalker jumping on the hood of a car that Elon's son was in?[1] Or the fact that the FAA gives Elon's jet a PIA, but Jack Sweeney brags about being able to get around that privacy protection?[2] What would it take to change your mind about this? There have already been close calls. Would someone actually have to harm Musk or his family? And you didn't address my ALPR analogy at all. Why does it matter whether the mode of transportation is a car or a plane? 1. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944 2. https://twitter.com/DavidSacks/status/1603857524574531584 https://twitter.com/DavidSacks/status/1603857524574531584
mcv 4y ago
Sounds like yet another strike against Google regarding privacy.
- rbanffy 4y ago
  A public figure that enjoys economic and political power does not have the same privacy protections as you or me.