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This is the time to leave. I feel sorry for everyone who built a community or business around Twitter.

by bakoo 4y ago

deleted 4y ago
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wahnfrieden 4y ago
Had a whole one planned out and prototyped for using the renewed twitter api as the in-app community so that I could avoid the insurmountable challenge of moderating UGC as a small business ʕ⁎̯͡⁎ʔ I’m moving to a decentralized and self-published model for community UGC but discovery suffers dramatically
for_i_in_range 4y ago
96% of Twitter users haven't heard of Mastodon.
- rippercushions 4y ago
  And the bans are obviously designed to make sure it stays that way.
- KerrAvon 4y ago
  You’ve surveyed them personally, have you?
friendlypeg 4y ago
I want to quit but there's nothing that truly replace it. I might try Mastaodon but in the meantime, I will do my job by blocking every ads I see on the app.
- timmytokyo 4y ago
  I was a huge Mastodon skeptic, but I made the switch a few weeks ago and it's been pretty nice, honestly. The community feels so much less toxic, and it's growing. I only hope with growth it doesn't start to replicate the rotten aspects of Twitter.
  - Someone1234 4y ago
    I don't really grasp the whole instance thing. Which Mastodon instance are we meant to move for a generic experience? I typically used Twitter to @Companies.
    - wnevets 4y ago
      From what I can tell your instance choice only really matters when looking at the "local" timeline. Besides that its kind of like email, you can send and receive email from anyone that uses email if they know your address. I use the Gmail instance but I can still get and send email to Hotmail users.
      - csomar 4y ago
        I'm still confused. Which instance should I use to create my account? Does that have any future repercussions? (says, if the server stops/is offline)?
        timmytokyo 4y ago
        If you're in doubt, try mastodon.social or masto.ai. Those are pretty "generic". Your choice does have some consequences. Each Mastodon instance has its own tailored block list, which determines which other instances are blocked in your feed. Instances also have their own codes of conduct. You can view an instance's block list and CoC by clicking the "About" link on the bottom left of the instance home page. (See https://mastodon.social/about https://mastodon.social/about for example.)
        csomar 4y ago
        I'm still confused about where my account exists. In the Server? As a public/private key combination?
        simonw 4y ago
- holler 4y ago
  Building https://sqwok.im https://sqwok.im and love to have ya! Just added search and unlisted posts, more on the way.
- heurist 4y ago
  I think it's time to step away from social media for a while. I'll stick with Twitter as long as it delivers what I perceive as valuable insight, but in general there are better things to do, especially heading into a rough economy. Things are going to get weird anyway with these generative models capable of generating passable tweets and articles.
carlivar 4y ago
I agree. I'm a libertarian and was glad to see Elon exposing the subjective and left leaning prior Twitter censorship policies. But... I also loathe Elon's sociopathic nature, and was waiting for the other shoe to drop with Twitter. It just did. He promised transparency but all these account suspensions are anything but. My idealist libertarian principles are offended, even if I don't really like the impacted journalists. "He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself." - Thomas Paine
- notpushkin 4y ago
  I'm not surprised. Elon might have enabled a couple cool technology companies to live and he's good at shitposting (in a good way), but he couldn't be farther away from libertarian ideals IMO. What's happening on Twitter right now is pretty much what I expected.
rvz 4y ago
- amrocha 4y ago
  Get out of here with the CP angle. It's not true.
  - rvz 4y ago
    - ProjectArcturis 4y ago
      >proliferation Of the three articles you posted, 2 are about the same single incident, and the other is about India punishing Twitter by making CP accusations after Twitter posted a map of India that had disputed territories "wrong". Doesn't seem to be much to it.
    - culi 4y ago
      Is there any evidence that this is somehow a bigger/more common problem on Twitter vs on any other major platform? Reddit, Facebook, online forums, Tumblr, etc all seem equally likely to have these same problems. Seems like Snapchat was also named in a lot of these articles. What's the deal with picking on Twitter specifically? Were they especially negligent compare to these other platforms?
    - notpushkin 4y ago
      [1] https://archive.is/IiBK3 https://archive.is/IiBK3
  - jyxent 4y ago
    It is even dumber because Twitter has less ability to fight CP now. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-29/musk-s-cuts-decimated-twitter-team-tackling-child-sexual-abuse https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-29/musk-s-cu... https://www.wired.com/story/twitter-child-sexual-abuse-material/ https://www.wired.com/story/twitter-child-sexual-abuse-mater...

This is the time to leave. I feel sorry for everyone who built a community or business around Twitter.

by bakoo 4y ago

This is the time to leave. I feel sorry for everyone who built a community or business around Twitter.

deleted 4y ago

[deleted]

wahnfrieden 4y ago

Had a whole one planned out and prototyped for using the renewed twitter api as the in-app community so that I could avoid the insurmountable challenge of moderating UGC as a small business ʕ⁎̯͡⁎ʔ I’m moving to a decentralized and self-published model for community UGC but discovery suffers dramatically

for_i_in_range 4y ago

96% of Twitter users haven't heard of Mastodon.

rippercushions 4y ago
And the bans are obviously designed to make sure it stays that way.
KerrAvon 4y ago
You’ve surveyed them personally, have you?

friendlypeg 4y ago

I want to quit but there's nothing that truly replace it. I might try Mastaodon but in the meantime, I will do my job by blocking every ads I see on the app.

timmytokyo 4y ago
I was a huge Mastodon skeptic, but I made the switch a few weeks ago and it's been pretty nice, honestly. The community feels so much less toxic, and it's growing. I only hope with growth it doesn't start to replicate the rotten aspects of Twitter.
- Someone1234 4y ago
  I don't really grasp the whole instance thing. Which Mastodon instance are we meant to move for a generic experience? I typically used Twitter to @Companies.
  - wnevets 4y ago
    From what I can tell your instance choice only really matters when looking at the "local" timeline. Besides that its kind of like email, you can send and receive email from anyone that uses email if they know your address. I use the Gmail instance but I can still get and send email to Hotmail users.
    - csomar 4y ago
      I'm still confused. Which instance should I use to create my account? Does that have any future repercussions? (says, if the server stops/is offline)?
      - timmytokyo 4y ago
        If you're in doubt, try mastodon.social or masto.ai. Those are pretty "generic". Your choice does have some consequences. Each Mastodon instance has its own tailored block list, which determines which other instances are blocked in your feed. Instances also have their own codes of conduct. You can view an instance's block list and CoC by clicking the "About" link on the bottom left of the instance home page. (See https://mastodon.social/about https://mastodon.social/about for example.)
        csomar 4y ago
        I'm still confused about where my account exists. In the Server? As a public/private key combination?
        simonw 4y ago
holler 4y ago
Building https://sqwok.im https://sqwok.im and love to have ya! Just added search and unlisted posts, more on the way.
heurist 4y ago
I think it's time to step away from social media for a while. I'll stick with Twitter as long as it delivers what I perceive as valuable insight, but in general there are better things to do, especially heading into a rough economy. Things are going to get weird anyway with these generative models capable of generating passable tweets and articles.

carlivar 4y ago

I agree. I'm a libertarian and was glad to see Elon exposing the subjective and left leaning prior Twitter censorship policies. But... I also loathe Elon's sociopathic nature, and was waiting for the other shoe to drop with Twitter. It just did. He promised transparency but all these account suspensions are anything but. My idealist libertarian principles are offended, even if I don't really like the impacted journalists. "He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself." - Thomas Paine

notpushkin 4y ago
I'm not surprised. Elon might have enabled a couple cool technology companies to live and he's good at shitposting (in a good way), but he couldn't be farther away from libertarian ideals IMO. What's happening on Twitter right now is pretty much what I expected.

rvz 4y ago

amrocha 4y ago
Get out of here with the CP angle. It's not true.
- rvz 4y ago
  - ProjectArcturis 4y ago
    >proliferation Of the three articles you posted, 2 are about the same single incident, and the other is about India punishing Twitter by making CP accusations after Twitter posted a map of India that had disputed territories "wrong". Doesn't seem to be much to it.
  - culi 4y ago
    Is there any evidence that this is somehow a bigger/more common problem on Twitter vs on any other major platform? Reddit, Facebook, online forums, Tumblr, etc all seem equally likely to have these same problems. Seems like Snapchat was also named in a lot of these articles. What's the deal with picking on Twitter specifically? Were they especially negligent compare to these other platforms?
  - notpushkin 4y ago
    [1] https://archive.is/IiBK3 https://archive.is/IiBK3
- jyxent 4y ago
  It is even dumber because Twitter has less ability to fight CP now. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-29/musk-s-cuts-decimated-twitter-team-tackling-child-sexual-abuse https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-29/musk-s-cu... https://www.wired.com/story/twitter-child-sexual-abuse-material/ https://www.wired.com/story/twitter-child-sexual-abuse-mater...