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To be clear: He called one person "pedo guy". That person had been insulting his / SpaceX's attempt to help. There's plenty to criticize Musk about, but this i

To be clear: He called one person "pedo guy". That person had been insulting his / SpaceX's attempt to help. There's plenty to criticize Musk about, but this is clearly a case of "can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen". Don't get into a flame war and cry to the legal system when the other guy is better at it than you. The dude deserves no sympathy.

ngai_aku 4y ago
Reckless accusations of pedophilia are fair game in your opinion? Really?
absrd 4y ago
Listen to yourself... the guy literally risked his life saving children who were trapped in a cave, and you think the mere fact that he criticized Musk means that he deserved to be slandered as a pedophile
jakelazaroff 4y ago
Oh well if he only did it to one person I guess it’s okay then!
klabb3 4y ago
The worlds richest toddler wants to make everything about him, distracts everyone with a poorly engineered hard case vessel in a cave that the divers had 0 visibility in, had to take tanks off to push through narrow passageways, and on top of it he lashes out with a personal insult. I don’t know what the “insult” was, but it was a terrible design, and a self-proclaimed engineer/inventor genius should have either seen its limitations from miles away or should have been self-aware enough to shut up and learn more about the problem before creating a media circus out of a fragile life-or-death situation.
jjulius 4y ago
Yeesh.
jacquesm 4y ago
Of course he deserves sympathy: he called Elon Musk out and in return got showered with the most disgusting personal attack. That alone should have caused Musk to be booted from Twitter. The fact that he wasn't is an oversight - in my opinion, of course.
maxbond 4y ago
For additional clarity; The rescue diver, Vernon Unsworth, when asked directly in an interview, minced no words in saying that Musk's plan was bad and that they believed it was a publicity stunt. [1] Their professional opinion about the merits of the plan should be taken as read; they were there, they participated in the rescue, they understood the cave system, and their criticism makes total sense. A monsoon was expected which would flood the cave; there was no time for ad-hoc, experimental technology - they had to act immediately, using tried and true techniques. And I think we all know, in our heart of hearts, that publicity was part of what Musk wanted from the situation (though I do believe Musk cares deeply about children and probably was concerned for these kids). Musk went on to hire a PI to try and find dirt on this person. [2] That sure feels to me like he couldn't stand the heat and wanted to use his money to slander this man. I think it's courageous to stand up against one of the most powerful men in the world when he randomly decides to abuse you because you spoke the truth. I don't think the fact that he used the court system to do so detracts. A man named Saman Kunan, 37 years old, gave his life in that rescue effort; he lost consciousness underwater and could not be resuscitated. Another man, Beirut Pakbara, developed an illness during the operation; he spent the next 18 months in and out of the hospital, before succumbing to the illness. I can't find an age, but photos make it apparent he was a young man. All twelve children were saved, along with their soccer coach. [This is mostly a summary of the Wikipedia article.] With that context, Musk's actions are just so incredibly, unthinkably petty. [1] https://youtube.com/shorts/VM31A4UsiU0?feature=share https://youtube.com/shorts/VM31A4UsiU0?feature=share [2] https://www.businessinsider.in/an-aide-to-elon-musk-hired-a-private-investigator-to-look-into-the-diver-musk-called-a-pedo-guy/articleshow/71159116.cms https://www.businessinsider.in/an-aide-to-elon-musk-hired-a-...
- lamontcg 4y ago
  > they're an experienced rescue diver Pretty sure he's just a dry caver, but he had the local knowledge of the cave system (when it was non-flooded).
  - maxbond 4y ago
    Thank you for the correction. I was relying on memory there, which is obviously a dangerous thing to do. After verifying what you said (so as not to make the same mistake twice), I replaced that claim with your correction. I've given my comment another looking over & I believe it is free of errors; if anyone spots any, please do call them out.
SpanishBrowne 4y ago
jeez. get a load of this pedo's comment.
fortran77 4y ago
How would you like it if people on Hacker News started calling you a "pedo"?
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meepmorp 4y ago
Christ, reread this to yourself, out loud. You're saying he had it coming because he dared to cross Elon.

ngai_aku 4y ago

Reckless accusations of pedophilia are fair game in your opinion? Really?

absrd 4y ago

Listen to yourself... the guy literally risked his life saving children who were trapped in a cave, and you think the mere fact that he criticized Musk means that he deserved to be slandered as a pedophile

jakelazaroff 4y ago

Oh well if he only did it to one person I guess it’s okay then!

klabb3 4y ago

The worlds richest toddler wants to make everything about him, distracts everyone with a poorly engineered hard case vessel in a cave that the divers had 0 visibility in, had to take tanks off to push through narrow passageways, and on top of it he lashes out with a personal insult. I don’t know what the “insult” was, but it was a terrible design, and a self-proclaimed engineer/inventor genius should have either seen its limitations from miles away or should have been self-aware enough to shut up and learn more about the problem before creating a media circus out of a fragile life-or-death situation.

jjulius 4y ago

Yeesh.

jacquesm 4y ago

Of course he deserves sympathy: he called Elon Musk out and in return got showered with the most disgusting personal attack. That alone should have caused Musk to be booted from Twitter. The fact that he wasn't is an oversight - in my opinion, of course.

maxbond 4y ago

For additional clarity; The rescue diver, Vernon Unsworth, when asked directly in an interview, minced no words in saying that Musk's plan was bad and that they believed it was a publicity stunt. [1] Their professional opinion about the merits of the plan should be taken as read; they were there, they participated in the rescue, they understood the cave system, and their criticism makes total sense. A monsoon was expected which would flood the cave; there was no time for ad-hoc, experimental technology - they had to act immediately, using tried and true techniques. And I think we all know, in our heart of hearts, that publicity was part of what Musk wanted from the situation (though I do believe Musk cares deeply about children and probably was concerned for these kids). Musk went on to hire a PI to try and find dirt on this person. [2] That sure feels to me like he couldn't stand the heat and wanted to use his money to slander this man. I think it's courageous to stand up against one of the most powerful men in the world when he randomly decides to abuse you because you spoke the truth. I don't think the fact that he used the court system to do so detracts. A man named Saman Kunan, 37 years old, gave his life in that rescue effort; he lost consciousness underwater and could not be resuscitated. Another man, Beirut Pakbara, developed an illness during the operation; he spent the next 18 months in and out of the hospital, before succumbing to the illness. I can't find an age, but photos make it apparent he was a young man. All twelve children were saved, along with their soccer coach. [This is mostly a summary of the Wikipedia article.] With that context, Musk's actions are just so incredibly, unthinkably petty. [1] https://youtube.com/shorts/VM31A4UsiU0?feature=share https://youtube.com/shorts/VM31A4UsiU0?feature=share [2] https://www.businessinsider.in/an-aide-to-elon-musk-hired-a-private-investigator-to-look-into-the-diver-musk-called-a-pedo-guy/articleshow/71159116.cms https://www.businessinsider.in/an-aide-to-elon-musk-hired-a-...

lamontcg 4y ago
> they're an experienced rescue diver Pretty sure he's just a dry caver, but he had the local knowledge of the cave system (when it was non-flooded).
- maxbond 4y ago
  Thank you for the correction. I was relying on memory there, which is obviously a dangerous thing to do. After verifying what you said (so as not to make the same mistake twice), I replaced that claim with your correction. I've given my comment another looking over & I believe it is free of errors; if anyone spots any, please do call them out.

SpanishBrowne 4y ago

jeez. get a load of this pedo's comment.

fortran77 4y ago

How would you like it if people on Hacker News started calling you a "pedo"?

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meepmorp 4y ago

Christ, reread this to yourself, out loud. You're saying he had it coming because he dared to cross Elon.