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Yes of course you are right, we don't know anything yet I agree. I am speculating a lot here. But I'm a believer in "intelligence as a commodity" as Sam Altman

Yes of course you are right, we don't know anything yet I agree. I am speculating a lot here. But I'm a believer in "intelligence as a commodity" as Sam Altman put it after seeing GPT3.5 so I think points 1 and 2 will be reality. 3 follows quite naturally to me but only in Western societies... Putin will have different ideas. Anyway speculating is fun but you're right its just speculating. My main point is we should always keep in mind this could turn out to be great .

xpe 4y ago
Fair enough :) _And_ if since we care about our AI-interdependent future, more of us (as in the people here on HN) need to wade into the gory details, including ethics and the current power structures. The "technology" (as in algorithms, data structures, hardware, etc) is arguably the "easy" part. There are plenty of existing incentives and structures to keep those _moving_. But moving in what direction? Even the notion of an "ethical compass" seems antiquated in light of current technology. We may have to reframe everything. This is a big challenge.
monocasa 4y ago
I'm not sure 3 follows. A walk downtown of any major city in America shows what society does for anyone who's work can't be commoditized or aren't sitting on an existing pile of wealth such that they don't need to work. They get nothing but tents and shame.
- weatherlite 4y ago
  That's because people like you and me (I'm assuming you're somewhere in the comfortable middle class) vote in for this system. Because so far we've enjoyed a reasonable quality of life. If that's no longer the case, we can vote for other leaders and other systems.
  - monocasa 4y ago
    Not really unfortunately, the US hasn't been a democracy reflecting the collective will of it's voters for some time now. https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-27074746 https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-27074746
  - 1-hour-ago 4y ago
    But people under stress might opt for a some sort of religeous acceptance of hardship, or a cult, or fascisim first. Where are the examples of the middle voting against the extremes when times get really hard?

xpe 4y ago

Fair enough :) _And_ if since we care about our AI-interdependent future, more of us (as in the people here on HN) need to wade into the gory details, including ethics and the current power structures. The "technology" (as in algorithms, data structures, hardware, etc) is arguably the "easy" part. There are plenty of existing incentives and structures to keep those _moving_. But moving in what direction? Even the notion of an "ethical compass" seems antiquated in light of current technology. We may have to reframe everything. This is a big challenge.

monocasa 4y ago

I'm not sure 3 follows. A walk downtown of any major city in America shows what society does for anyone who's work can't be commoditized or aren't sitting on an existing pile of wealth such that they don't need to work. They get nothing but tents and shame.

weatherlite 4y ago
That's because people like you and me (I'm assuming you're somewhere in the comfortable middle class) vote in for this system. Because so far we've enjoyed a reasonable quality of life. If that's no longer the case, we can vote for other leaders and other systems.
- monocasa 4y ago
  Not really unfortunately, the US hasn't been a democracy reflecting the collective will of it's voters for some time now. https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-27074746 https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-27074746
- 1-hour-ago 4y ago
  But people under stress might opt for a some sort of religeous acceptance of hardship, or a cult, or fascisim first. Where are the examples of the middle voting against the extremes when times get really hard?