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A first look at the new Gitlab Web IDE and remote development experience

44 points by mikece 4y ago

aliqot 4y ago
Why is there a picture of a Betta fish and then the word Beta everywhere? It's a lovely Plakkat but it's a bit of a reach.
- xwowsersx 4y ago
  What's a Plakkat?
  - jonas-w 4y ago
    I don't know exactly what they mean but in german, Plakat means poster, placard or billboard.
  - aliqot 4y ago
    Plakkat is the specific fish in the photo, where a betta fish is being used as a reference to 'beta' software. This is the two/too/to you're/your of the fish world. This is table stakes literacy.
    - vageli 4y ago
      Plakats are bettas, though. https://japanesefightingfish.org/plakat-betta/ https://japanesefightingfish.org/plakat-betta/
ghuntley 4y ago
Time to add GitLab to the list of companies playing in MSFT's sandbox. Whilst VSCode (MIT) is OSS the ecosystem is not open-source and is designed in a way that makes your product a walking, talking, advertisement for GitHub Codespaces. See https://ghuntley.com/fracture https://ghuntley.com/fracture
- rcarr 4y ago
  I find this a weird decision too. Why would you choose a product made by your director competitor to be a core part of your product? I suppose it’s semi-common with big companies (Apple using Samsung produced iPhone parts comes to mind) but it’s still a bit strange. I feel like JetBrains or Sublime or someone need to get a real competitor going because I don’t like the way VSCode is coming to dominate the web editor space without any real competition. Give it 5 years though and I think we’ll have a rust based editor that will dominate everything else due to high performance.
  - ranguna 4y ago
    Because vscode is really good. Vscode (or vscodium) is open source. You could say the same about the brave browser, it uses chromium under the hood, which is a open source browser engine maintained by Google, a direct competitor of brave. Not only is chromium part of brave's core business, it is what its core business runs on. So I don't really see an issue with using vscode OSS in gitlab.
    - ghuntley 4y ago
      Ensure you read https://ghuntley.com/fracture https://ghuntley.com/fracture. If any point of that is wrong then happy to amend but it is what it is. In a couple years time there will be no Microsoft maintained LSPs that non MSFT companies can use. Microsoft are keeping them for themselves. As is their right. So if all these companies come in thinking they can compete with MSFT the answer really is, no they cannot, not without substational amounts of investment and maybe a collab between these companies to recreate all the LSPs that Microsoft is locking down. I would love to see some form of collab…
      - ranguna 4y ago
        So you are saying vscodium's problem is extensions. I'm sorry, you are gonna have a bad time with pretty much all major text editors, including vim. The biggest issue I've seen was with the python language server, but even that can be replaced with an OSS equivalent. I have copilot installed in vscodium. Remote ssh to vscode works, vscode containers work. Everything is working.

44 points by mikece 4y ago

Why is there a picture of a Betta fish and then the word Beta everywhere? It's a lovely Plakkat but it's a bit of a reach.

xwowsersx 4y ago
What's a Plakkat?
- jonas-w 4y ago
  I don't know exactly what they mean but in german, Plakat means poster, placard or billboard.
- aliqot 4y ago
  Plakkat is the specific fish in the photo, where a betta fish is being used as a reference to 'beta' software. This is the two/too/to you're/your of the fish world. This is table stakes literacy.
  - vageli 4y ago
    Plakats are bettas, though. https://japanesefightingfish.org/plakat-betta/ https://japanesefightingfish.org/plakat-betta/

ghuntley 4y ago

Time to add GitLab to the list of companies playing in MSFT's sandbox. Whilst VSCode (MIT) is OSS the ecosystem is not open-source and is designed in a way that makes your product a walking, talking, advertisement for GitHub Codespaces. See https://ghuntley.com/fracture https://ghuntley.com/fracture

rcarr 4y ago
I find this a weird decision too. Why would you choose a product made by your director competitor to be a core part of your product? I suppose it’s semi-common with big companies (Apple using Samsung produced iPhone parts comes to mind) but it’s still a bit strange. I feel like JetBrains or Sublime or someone need to get a real competitor going because I don’t like the way VSCode is coming to dominate the web editor space without any real competition. Give it 5 years though and I think we’ll have a rust based editor that will dominate everything else due to high performance.
- ranguna 4y ago
  Because vscode is really good. Vscode (or vscodium) is open source. You could say the same about the brave browser, it uses chromium under the hood, which is a open source browser engine maintained by Google, a direct competitor of brave. Not only is chromium part of brave's core business, it is what its core business runs on. So I don't really see an issue with using vscode OSS in gitlab.
  - ghuntley 4y ago
    Ensure you read https://ghuntley.com/fracture https://ghuntley.com/fracture. If any point of that is wrong then happy to amend but it is what it is. In a couple years time there will be no Microsoft maintained LSPs that non MSFT companies can use. Microsoft are keeping them for themselves. As is their right. So if all these companies come in thinking they can compete with MSFT the answer really is, no they cannot, not without substational amounts of investment and maybe a collab between these companies to recreate all the LSPs that Microsoft is locking down. I would love to see some form of collab…
    - ranguna 4y ago
      So you are saying vscodium's problem is extensions. I'm sorry, you are gonna have a bad time with pretty much all major text editors, including vim. The biggest issue I've seen was with the python language server, but even that can be replaced with an OSS equivalent. I have copilot installed in vscodium. Remote ssh to vscode works, vscode containers work. Everything is working.