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Earlier this year, graphic designers, last month it was software engineers, and now musicians are also feeling the effects. Who else will AI make looking for a

Earlier this year, graphic designers, last month it was software engineers, and now musicians are also feeling the effects. Who else will AI make looking for a new job?

logn 4y ago
The raw outputs of these tools will be best consumed by experts. Until general AI, these are just better tools for the same workers.
- mensetmanusman 4y ago
  They were killed off by the ability to record the data. Every city used to have their own music stars :)
323 4y ago
Politicians, bureaucracy. GPT-3, what policy should we apply to increase tax revenue by 5% given these constraints? GPT-3, please tell me some populist thing to say to win the next election, or how should I deflect these corruption charges.
- kmeisthax 4y ago
  "We should place a tax on all copyright lawyers and use it to fund GPU manufacturing and AI development. At your next stump speech, mention how the entertainment industry is stealing jobs from construction workers. Your corruption charges won't matter because voters only care about corruption when it's not in their favor."
- antipotoad 4y ago
  Isn’t this the plot of Deus Ex?
Applejinx 4y ago
Musicians were made to get a day job long before you were born ;)
- wpietri 4y ago
  Although I do wonder how much an earlier technology, audio reproduction, contributed to that. My grandmother worked for a time as a piano player as part of a nightclub orchestra. It was a stable job back then. I have to wonder how many musician jobs were killed off by the jukebox and related technologies.
awestroke 4y ago
If I was a musician, this post would not make me worry for a second
- wcoenen 4y ago
  If a hack based on an image generator already has promising results for music generation, then imagine what will happen if something dedicated to music is built from the ground up.
goostavos 4y ago
This was the first AI thing to fill me with a feeling of existential dread.
- TaupeRanger 4y ago
  What is with the hyperbole in this thread? This stuff sounds like incoherent noise. It is noticeably worse than AI audio stuff I heard 5 years ago. What is going on with the responses here?
  - wcoenen 4y ago
    Usage of an image generator to produce passable music fragments, even if they sound a bit distorted, is very surprising. That type of novelty is why we come here.
    - jjcon 4y ago
      People did the same with GANs years ago with similar odd results. I do think the kinks will eventually be ironed out but i don’t think this is it.
  - Gigachad 4y ago
    I assume the stuff from 5 years ago was essentially spitting out a midi output which would be fed in to a traditional tool to play samples. So it's going to sound a lot sharper while being a lot less sophisticated. The real breakthrough here is this is generating everything from scratch and it still resembles the prompt. One of the automated prompts was "Eminem anger rap", I'm confident if you had showed me the audio without the prompt I could identify which artist it sounded like. And this is just a basic first attempt at reusing a tool not even designed for audio. I can only imagine how powerful it could be after some trivial revisions like using GPT-3 to generate coherent lyrics.
  - sansieation 4y ago
    I feel exactly the opposite way, but I suppose everyone has a different ear and taste. I think a good 3-4% of what this produces sounds damn amazing and beautiful. I've been vibing to it a lot. Fantastic stuff! There is also the feeling of shock and awe like with ChatGPT where you give it a prompt about a niche thing you think it will definitely not understand and it turns out it understands it shockingly well. As an example I just gave it a prompt "Avril 4th" and the result literally gave me chills.
bawolff 4y ago
Honestly none of them should. I think the moral panic around these things is way overstated. They are cool but hardly about to replace anyone's job.
- razemio 4y ago
  Have you tried AI asset generators? They are working extremely good. Just yesterday a friend of mine has shown me the progress they made in their game. It is incredible. Designers are 100% loosing their job over this.
  - Agentlien 4y ago
    I'm a professional game developer and excited AI enthusiast. While I've seen a lot of cool stuff which helps generation for hobby projects or smaller indie games it's nowhere near the quality and consistency needed to come close to the work of a skilled human artist at a larger studio.
    - razemio 4y ago
      Yes, and I studied Game Development in Germany for 3 years in Düsseldorf, got third at the national gameforge newcomer award with my team "Northlight Games" and still have many connections to the people in the business (if this somehow matters). The quality for 2d assets is on very professional level and already replaced jobs in projects I know. To give you an example join the public discord of https://www.scenario.gg https://www.scenario.gg and check out results. Come back and tell me those aren't on a professional level. I am not saying that designers won't be needed anymore but AI is definitely able to replace jobs and speed up progress in game development.

Earlier this year, graphic designers, last month it was software engineers, and now musicians are also feeling the effects. Who else will AI make looking for a new job?

logn 4y ago

The raw outputs of these tools will be best consumed by experts. Until general AI, these are just better tools for the same workers.

mensetmanusman 4y ago
They were killed off by the ability to record the data. Every city used to have their own music stars :)

323 4y ago

Politicians, bureaucracy. GPT-3, what policy should we apply to increase tax revenue by 5% given these constraints? GPT-3, please tell me some populist thing to say to win the next election, or how should I deflect these corruption charges.

kmeisthax 4y ago
"We should place a tax on all copyright lawyers and use it to fund GPU manufacturing and AI development. At your next stump speech, mention how the entertainment industry is stealing jobs from construction workers. Your corruption charges won't matter because voters only care about corruption when it's not in their favor."
antipotoad 4y ago
Isn’t this the plot of Deus Ex?

Applejinx 4y ago

Musicians were made to get a day job long before you were born ;)

wpietri 4y ago
Although I do wonder how much an earlier technology, audio reproduction, contributed to that. My grandmother worked for a time as a piano player as part of a nightclub orchestra. It was a stable job back then. I have to wonder how many musician jobs were killed off by the jukebox and related technologies.

awestroke 4y ago

If I was a musician, this post would not make me worry for a second

wcoenen 4y ago
If a hack based on an image generator already has promising results for music generation, then imagine what will happen if something dedicated to music is built from the ground up.

goostavos 4y ago

This was the first AI thing to fill me with a feeling of existential dread.

TaupeRanger 4y ago
What is with the hyperbole in this thread? This stuff sounds like incoherent noise. It is noticeably worse than AI audio stuff I heard 5 years ago. What is going on with the responses here?
- wcoenen 4y ago
  Usage of an image generator to produce passable music fragments, even if they sound a bit distorted, is very surprising. That type of novelty is why we come here.
  - jjcon 4y ago
    People did the same with GANs years ago with similar odd results. I do think the kinks will eventually be ironed out but i don’t think this is it.
- Gigachad 4y ago
  I assume the stuff from 5 years ago was essentially spitting out a midi output which would be fed in to a traditional tool to play samples. So it's going to sound a lot sharper while being a lot less sophisticated. The real breakthrough here is this is generating everything from scratch and it still resembles the prompt. One of the automated prompts was "Eminem anger rap", I'm confident if you had showed me the audio without the prompt I could identify which artist it sounded like. And this is just a basic first attempt at reusing a tool not even designed for audio. I can only imagine how powerful it could be after some trivial revisions like using GPT-3 to generate coherent lyrics.
- sansieation 4y ago
  I feel exactly the opposite way, but I suppose everyone has a different ear and taste. I think a good 3-4% of what this produces sounds damn amazing and beautiful. I've been vibing to it a lot. Fantastic stuff! There is also the feeling of shock and awe like with ChatGPT where you give it a prompt about a niche thing you think it will definitely not understand and it turns out it understands it shockingly well. As an example I just gave it a prompt "Avril 4th" and the result literally gave me chills.

bawolff 4y ago

Honestly none of them should. I think the moral panic around these things is way overstated. They are cool but hardly about to replace anyone's job.

razemio 4y ago
Have you tried AI asset generators? They are working extremely good. Just yesterday a friend of mine has shown me the progress they made in their game. It is incredible. Designers are 100% loosing their job over this.
- Agentlien 4y ago
  I'm a professional game developer and excited AI enthusiast. While I've seen a lot of cool stuff which helps generation for hobby projects or smaller indie games it's nowhere near the quality and consistency needed to come close to the work of a skilled human artist at a larger studio.
  - razemio 4y ago
    Yes, and I studied Game Development in Germany for 3 years in Düsseldorf, got third at the national gameforge newcomer award with my team "Northlight Games" and still have many connections to the people in the business (if this somehow matters). The quality for 2d assets is on very professional level and already replaced jobs in projects I know. To give you an example join the public discord of https://www.scenario.gg https://www.scenario.gg and check out results. Come back and tell me those aren't on a professional level. I am not saying that designers won't be needed anymore but AI is definitely able to replace jobs and speed up progress in game development.