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I absolutely love this, including the eventual output. However, the word "video" needs removing from almost every part of the article as it makes it really hard

I absolutely love this, including the eventual output. However, the word "video" needs removing from almost every part of the article as it makes it really hard to parse given that "video" is an entirely different medium.

actionfromafar 4y ago
"Motion picture" is the more traditional term, but it's clunky and perhaps unknown to the writer.
- s1mon 4y ago
  Or just call it a movie camera.
pavlov 4y ago
Yeah, “film video camera” is like saying “film DSLR camera”. There’s a built-in contradiction. I guess “film video” could be a real thing if some crazy person stored an analog video signal on an optical track on film. What the author has built is called a movie camera, as someone else already noted. (It’s a great project, very impressive!)
GeompMankle 4y ago
It would be a film video camera if they developed the film in quasi-realtime and then fed it into a scanner or a flying spot mechanism to read out pixels or a video signal. I would donate to a gofundme that wanted to do such a crazy thing.
- actionfromafar 4y ago
  I can't find a reference now, but there was some kind of military radar control system, which painted real-time light on film, which was continuously developed and projected on large projectors. It wasn't exactly video, but vector graphics, updated with a new frame every few seconds if I recall. A really wondrous system, with a built in permanent record of what had been shown on screen. (I wonder if these projectors were the inspiration for the projectors in War Games.)
dusted 4y ago
Actually, video comes from "to see" and "to hear" so it's only video when it has sound.. The word implies nothing about the medium.. It's a moving picture camera that uses film as the recording medium.
- Clamchop 4y ago
  Strict etymology is not the best way to understand a word. Video here makes sense in a few ways, particularly because it's all but certain that what will be viewed is a digital scan and not a projection and because the audience may be more familiar with the word. However, in a professional or technical context, video always refers to electronic movies and is not used when the medium is film. For example, when you say a movie was shot on video, then you are saying it was not recorded on film.
kypro 4y ago
I think I'm being an idiot here, but what do you mean "video is an entirely different medium"? Isn't video a generic term for a picture with motion? Surely how that motion is captured is irrelevant so long as it's reproduced as a video? I understand extra steps were taken, but the output here is clearly a video?
- abdullahkhalids 4y ago
  Apparently not, as I learn just now https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video > Video is an electronic medium for the recording, copying, playback, broadcasting, and display of moving visual media [emphasis my own] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_camera https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_camera > A video camera is an optical instrument that captures videos (as opposed to a movie camera, which records images on film).

actionfromafar 4y ago

"Motion picture" is the more traditional term, but it's clunky and perhaps unknown to the writer.

s1mon 4y ago
Or just call it a movie camera.

pavlov 4y ago

Yeah, “film video camera” is like saying “film DSLR camera”. There’s a built-in contradiction. I guess “film video” could be a real thing if some crazy person stored an analog video signal on an optical track on film. What the author has built is called a movie camera, as someone else already noted. (It’s a great project, very impressive!)

GeompMankle 4y ago

It would be a film video camera if they developed the film in quasi-realtime and then fed it into a scanner or a flying spot mechanism to read out pixels or a video signal. I would donate to a gofundme that wanted to do such a crazy thing.

actionfromafar 4y ago
I can't find a reference now, but there was some kind of military radar control system, which painted real-time light on film, which was continuously developed and projected on large projectors. It wasn't exactly video, but vector graphics, updated with a new frame every few seconds if I recall. A really wondrous system, with a built in permanent record of what had been shown on screen. (I wonder if these projectors were the inspiration for the projectors in War Games.)

dusted 4y ago

Actually, video comes from "to see" and "to hear" so it's only video when it has sound.. The word implies nothing about the medium.. It's a moving picture camera that uses film as the recording medium.

Clamchop 4y ago
Strict etymology is not the best way to understand a word. Video here makes sense in a few ways, particularly because it's all but certain that what will be viewed is a digital scan and not a projection and because the audience may be more familiar with the word. However, in a professional or technical context, video always refers to electronic movies and is not used when the medium is film. For example, when you say a movie was shot on video, then you are saying it was not recorded on film.

kypro 4y ago

I think I'm being an idiot here, but what do you mean "video is an entirely different medium"? Isn't video a generic term for a picture with motion? Surely how that motion is captured is irrelevant so long as it's reproduced as a video? I understand extra steps were taken, but the output here is clearly a video?

abdullahkhalids 4y ago
Apparently not, as I learn just now https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video > Video is an electronic medium for the recording, copying, playback, broadcasting, and display of moving visual media [emphasis my own] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_camera https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_camera > A video camera is an optical instrument that captures videos (as opposed to a movie camera, which records images on film).