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Why the ‘Twitter Files’ Are Falling Flat

11 points by isaacfrond 4y ago

DrThunder 4y ago
Propaganda article is propaganda. They're only falling flat with a specific group of people that listen to media that refuses to acknowledge anything that goes against their activist message. There's a large portion of the country that they're not "falling flat" with.
- rektide 4y ago
  Perhaps, "falling flat with objective reality." These folks are wrong, mad, & being hammered non-stop by their media that these are huge scandals. But they're not. If these organizations & these viewers had any sense of scope these would be periodic footnotes, not major continual topics. It's low journalism meant to inflame.
  - DrThunder 4y ago
    I don't agree. I think sites like Politico are trying to force people into believing that. For me, the government heavily influencing speech through their tech giant proxy of choice is an explicit denial of 1st amendment rights. I don't see how that isn't a huge scandal. Any attempt from these media outlets to downplay that into something that's not worthy of attention just strengthens my conviction that it is worrisome. Why do you believe this is "low level journalism"? It's certainly no more low level that reporting on Trump's tweets for half a decade.
rektide 4y ago
From the author of the extremely well received Meme Wars, Joan Donovan. Very nice contrast versus Facebook Files. Much appreciate this, as a good tocuhstone article for the times & happenings.
- DrThunder 4y ago
  This is a logical fallacy, appeal to authority. Address the information not who's delivering it.
  - rektide 4y ago
    Context matters & this is a person who literally wrote the book on the context here. It's absolutely worth mentioning, & absolutely pertinent, albeit I agree it is not sufficient to prove a logic proof.
epakai 4y ago
There's nothing actionable about them. They're just ex post facto justification for Musk's overtly activist Twitter purchase. Supposedly he's excised this bad part of Twitter, but instead were finding the new Twitter is just less versed in content moderation. There isn't any new policy that addresses the issues raised, just an absence of staff to continue the old policy.
- PM_me_your_math 4y ago
  Yes, nothing actionable about government and a private corporation colluding to influence an election, silence dissenters, and suppress information that is harmful to their campaign. Nothing can be done. Everyone gets off scott-free. Then again, this is politico we're talking about. Its practically state media.

11 points by isaacfrond 4y ago

Propaganda article is propaganda. They're only falling flat with a specific group of people that listen to media that refuses to acknowledge anything that goes against their activist message. There's a large portion of the country that they're not "falling flat" with.

rektide 4y ago
Perhaps, "falling flat with objective reality." These folks are wrong, mad, & being hammered non-stop by their media that these are huge scandals. But they're not. If these organizations & these viewers had any sense of scope these would be periodic footnotes, not major continual topics. It's low journalism meant to inflame.
- DrThunder 4y ago
  I don't agree. I think sites like Politico are trying to force people into believing that. For me, the government heavily influencing speech through their tech giant proxy of choice is an explicit denial of 1st amendment rights. I don't see how that isn't a huge scandal. Any attempt from these media outlets to downplay that into something that's not worthy of attention just strengthens my conviction that it is worrisome. Why do you believe this is "low level journalism"? It's certainly no more low level that reporting on Trump's tweets for half a decade.

rektide 4y ago

From the author of the extremely well received Meme Wars, Joan Donovan. Very nice contrast versus Facebook Files. Much appreciate this, as a good tocuhstone article for the times & happenings.

DrThunder 4y ago
This is a logical fallacy, appeal to authority. Address the information not who's delivering it.
- rektide 4y ago
  Context matters & this is a person who literally wrote the book on the context here. It's absolutely worth mentioning, & absolutely pertinent, albeit I agree it is not sufficient to prove a logic proof.

epakai 4y ago

There's nothing actionable about them. They're just ex post facto justification for Musk's overtly activist Twitter purchase. Supposedly he's excised this bad part of Twitter, but instead were finding the new Twitter is just less versed in content moderation. There isn't any new policy that addresses the issues raised, just an absence of staff to continue the old policy.

PM_me_your_math 4y ago
Yes, nothing actionable about government and a private corporation colluding to influence an election, silence dissenters, and suppress information that is harmful to their campaign. Nothing can be done. Everyone gets off scott-free. Then again, this is politico we're talking about. Its practically state media.