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It's not about providing info that he flies a lot, but about sharing his live location without consent. Imagine someone kept posting a tweet about your every tr

It's not about providing info that he flies a lot, but about sharing his live location without consent. Imagine someone kept posting a tweet about your every trip - when you left, when and where you will arrive. Twitter TOS are one thing, but I'm quite sure such things break EU's GDPR laws as well.

hanspeter 4y ago
What part of GDPR are you quite sure is violated and by who?
- blitzar 4y ago
  And which one of Elon Musk, elonjets, Elons Gulfstream or San Francisco is in the EU?
jzb 4y ago
A lot of public figures are under scrutiny like this. You ask others to imagine what it’s like to have location shared without consent. But, you’re ignoring all the shit Elon does as well as all the ways he voluntarily forced himself into the public eye. Elon wants the luxury of saying and doing anything he wants without accountability. This is a tiny way for the public to push back. No sympathy.
- tomcam 4y ago
  > Elon wants the luxury of saying and doing anything he wants without accountability. Prove it
  - oblio 4y ago
    It takes about 5 minutes of reading his tweets to "Prove it"...
    - the_only_law 4y ago
      Ah yes, the art of the non answer. Probably one of the most prominent arts on HN.
      - oblio 4y ago
        There you go: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603235998263123969?s=20&t=ZoaARr19puxyC3TDQhTiSA https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603235998263123969?s=20... Musk is doxxing someone while having banned the jet tracker he accused of doxxing (which was using public information... ) AND multiple reporters just reporting the story.
    - tomcam 4y ago
      So, no proof. Thank you.
      - oblio 4y ago
        https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34012991 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34012991
1jbdg 4y ago
It’s public information… it’s also not his location, it’s the location of his jet
cinntaile 4y ago
His live location is not being shared. The live location of his plane is. This info is public in the EU as well, it's mandatory to broadcast it.
devnullbrain 4y ago
Instead they merely sell it to advertising companies.
- berkes 4y ago
  Investors and marketwatch is very interested in this data. Because it can be used to build cases on mergers, bankruptcy, management changes and so forth. If the private jet of a Shell manager is seen to fly to a Phillipine island a few times in a month, and the private jet of a manager of a Phillipine drilling company then flies to Amsterdam, it's likely that Shell is going to buy, build or anything over there.
stuaxo 4y ago
He doesn't have to fly in a private jet.
- icare_1er 4y ago
  When you managed several companies headquartered in various places in the US, you have to.
  - CaptainZapp 4y ago
    But then he shall stop representing himself as the savior of humanity with uber-green credentials. Otherwise he's just an uber-hypocrite.
  - deleted 4y ago
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  - macintux 4y ago
    There are plenty of jets available for private hire.
    - icare_1er 4y ago
      True, does that apply to renting a car or a bike everyday rather than buying one then ? Grotesque.
  - oblio 4y ago
    First of all, when you're the CEO of what, 5 companies at the same time? you're probably not working that much. Or being a CEO should be a part time job, 20% of regular working hours. Secondly: Twitter is in San Francisco, Neuralink is in San Francisco, Tesla is in Austin, The Boring Company is in an Austin suburb, SpaceX is in the LA metro area. I'm quite sure there are regular commercial flights each day between Austin, San Francisco and LA. Let's be real here, he just uses a private jet because it's cool and convenient.
axlee 4y ago
It's about tracking a plane which ALREADY has its location tracked by a transponder and published publicly. Like every other non-military plane in the world. Nothing is unusual there, except that this data is posted to Twitter. A plane is not an individual.
itsoktocry 4y ago
>but about sharing his live location without consent. I'm trying to figure out if all of the people repeating this line are social media bots, or what. This information is public and it's widely available on many other apps (I was getting ads on Twitter for alternatives last night). Banning the Twitter account doesn't do much, and through the Streisand Effect will just direct ne'er-do-wells to alternatives.

hanspeter 4y ago

What part of GDPR are you quite sure is violated and by who?

blitzar 4y ago
And which one of Elon Musk, elonjets, Elons Gulfstream or San Francisco is in the EU?

jzb 4y ago

A lot of public figures are under scrutiny like this. You ask others to imagine what it’s like to have location shared without consent. But, you’re ignoring all the shit Elon does as well as all the ways he voluntarily forced himself into the public eye. Elon wants the luxury of saying and doing anything he wants without accountability. This is a tiny way for the public to push back. No sympathy.

tomcam 4y ago
> Elon wants the luxury of saying and doing anything he wants without accountability. Prove it
- oblio 4y ago
  It takes about 5 minutes of reading his tweets to "Prove it"...
  - the_only_law 4y ago
    Ah yes, the art of the non answer. Probably one of the most prominent arts on HN.
    - oblio 4y ago
      There you go: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603235998263123969?s=20&t=ZoaARr19puxyC3TDQhTiSA https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603235998263123969?s=20... Musk is doxxing someone while having banned the jet tracker he accused of doxxing (which was using public information... ) AND multiple reporters just reporting the story.
  - tomcam 4y ago
    So, no proof. Thank you.
    - oblio 4y ago
      https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34012991 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34012991

1jbdg 4y ago

It’s public information… it’s also not his location, it’s the location of his jet

cinntaile 4y ago

His live location is not being shared. The live location of his plane is. This info is public in the EU as well, it's mandatory to broadcast it.

devnullbrain 4y ago

Instead they merely sell it to advertising companies.

berkes 4y ago
Investors and marketwatch is very interested in this data. Because it can be used to build cases on mergers, bankruptcy, management changes and so forth. If the private jet of a Shell manager is seen to fly to a Phillipine island a few times in a month, and the private jet of a manager of a Phillipine drilling company then flies to Amsterdam, it's likely that Shell is going to buy, build or anything over there.

stuaxo 4y ago

He doesn't have to fly in a private jet.

icare_1er 4y ago
When you managed several companies headquartered in various places in the US, you have to.
- CaptainZapp 4y ago
  But then he shall stop representing himself as the savior of humanity with uber-green credentials. Otherwise he's just an uber-hypocrite.
- deleted 4y ago
  [deleted]
- macintux 4y ago
  There are plenty of jets available for private hire.
  - icare_1er 4y ago
    True, does that apply to renting a car or a bike everyday rather than buying one then ? Grotesque.
- oblio 4y ago
  First of all, when you're the CEO of what, 5 companies at the same time? you're probably not working that much. Or being a CEO should be a part time job, 20% of regular working hours. Secondly: Twitter is in San Francisco, Neuralink is in San Francisco, Tesla is in Austin, The Boring Company is in an Austin suburb, SpaceX is in the LA metro area. I'm quite sure there are regular commercial flights each day between Austin, San Francisco and LA. Let's be real here, he just uses a private jet because it's cool and convenient.

axlee 4y ago

It's about tracking a plane which ALREADY has its location tracked by a transponder and published publicly. Like every other non-military plane in the world. Nothing is unusual there, except that this data is posted to Twitter. A plane is not an individual.

itsoktocry 4y ago

>but about sharing his live location without consent. I'm trying to figure out if all of the people repeating this line are social media bots, or what. This information is public and it's widely available on many other apps (I was getting ads on Twitter for alternatives last night). Banning the Twitter account doesn't do much, and through the Streisand Effect will just direct ne'er-do-wells to alternatives.