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Any insight into the tech this is using?

by brador 15y ago

citricsquid 15y ago
"Summly’s patent pending technology has been evaluated by MIT Researchers and proven state-of-the-art. We utilise ontological detection and machine learning techniques in our summarisation processes. Our core technology is language independent and produces great results out of the box for any language. In addition, specific optimisations have been made for English, French, Spanish, Italian, Dutch, German, Swedish, Mandarin, Russian, Japanese and Finnish." http://www.summly.com/en/technology.html http://www.summly.com/en/technology.html
- tluyben2 15y ago
  It says that, but to what extend is it the truth? I can put that on my website too if my friend from MIT tells me something I did is state-of-the-art just from hearing me describe it (aka not digging into the code etc). I'm not saying it isn't true, but from the results the app gives on non demo cases and from the discussion in this thread i'm not sure?
dmn001 15y ago
Opening the ipa file, and browsing the contents, there are a couple of plain text files - containing stop words, dictionaries and others on natural language processing. The summarised results from the app are very random - pick any article other than the test case in the video and you won't get any useful output, 3 random sentences usually.
- chr15 15y ago
  I thought it was a stretch that D'Aloiso taught himself the linear algebra, statistics, probability theory, NLP, and machine learning required to implement such an algorithm. Especially since he doesn't take a deep interest in programming.
  - dmn001 15y ago
    It appears to be an iteration of his previous app Trimit: http://www.fastcompany.com/1772823/the-15-year-old-brain-behind-the-trimit-app-and-why-young-app-store-entrepreneurs-can-succee http://www.fastcompany.com/1772823/the-15-year-old-brain-beh... http://techcrunch.com/2011/07/15/trimit-summarizes-emails-blog-posts-and-more-with-a-shake-of-your-iphone/ http://techcrunch.com/2011/07/15/trimit-summarizes-emails-bl... I am guessing that he just outsourced the AI/algorithm part based on the articles content: 'we' and 'The Trimit team' and Nick just designed the UI. Overall, great concept, but poor execution (in terms of accuracy) and journalists seem to be buying the hype.
- raphman 15y ago
  Is there any legal and simple way of obtaining the ipa file without using iTunes (i.e. on Linux)?
  - eonefive 15y ago
    http://www.multiupload.com/RWD3XZMOW2 http://www.multiupload.com/RWD3XZMOW2
- raphman 15y ago
  From DataInfo.rtf in the iap: StopWords: common words in languages: Swedish, English, Mandarin, Italian, French, German, Spanish Japanese, Russian, Finnish, Dutch. Special Word: discard pronouns/trigger keywords in all of above languages. Currently removes all pronoun in sentences Stop Words From Where: http://www.ranks.nl/resources/stopwords.html http://www.ranks.nl/resources/stopwords.html http://www.lextek.com/manuals/onix/stopwords1.html http://www.lextek.com/manuals/onix/stopwords1.html http://www.lextek.com/manuals/onix/stopwords2.html http://www.lextek.com/manuals/onix/stopwords2.html http://www.link-assistant.com/seo-stop-words.html http://www.link-assistant.com/seo-stop-words.html English http://members.unine.ch/jacques.savoy/clef/index.html http://members.unine.ch/jacques.savoy/clef/index.html http://wiki.apache.org/solr/LanguageAnalysis http://wiki.apache.org/solr/LanguageAnalysis Other languages http://hi.baidu.com/zhaocy0113/blog/item/146b5c346a738c4d251f1496.html http://hi.baidu.com/zhaocy0113/blog/item/146b5c346a738c4d251... http://tribes.tribe.net/geographicalife/thread/98f6abb6-71bf-4982-93e4-701a5de30471 http://tribes.tribe.net/geographicalife/thread/98f6abb6-71bf... Chinese http://dnnspeedblog.com/SpeedBlog/PostID/3187/Japanese-Stop-words http://dnnspeedblog.com/SpeedBlog/PostID/3187/Japanese-Stop-... http://www.ranks.nl/stopwords/japanese.html http://www.ranks.nl/stopwords/japanese.html Japanese THEN ALL TRANSLATE ENGLISH FIRST STUFF LENGTH STOP: 19,070 LENGTH GLOBAL: 8059 LENGTH SPECIAL: 362 Good means no change/Draft little change/Bad 000s

Any insight into the tech this is using?

by brador 15y ago

Any insight into the tech this is using?

"Summly’s patent pending technology has been evaluated by MIT Researchers and proven state-of-the-art. We utilise ontological detection and machine learning techniques in our summarisation processes. Our core technology is language independent and produces great results out of the box for any language. In addition, specific optimisations have been made for English, French, Spanish, Italian, Dutch, German, Swedish, Mandarin, Russian, Japanese and Finnish." http://www.summly.com/en/technology.html http://www.summly.com/en/technology.html

tluyben2 15y ago
It says that, but to what extend is it the truth? I can put that on my website too if my friend from MIT tells me something I did is state-of-the-art just from hearing me describe it (aka not digging into the code etc). I'm not saying it isn't true, but from the results the app gives on non demo cases and from the discussion in this thread i'm not sure?

dmn001 15y ago

Opening the ipa file, and browsing the contents, there are a couple of plain text files - containing stop words, dictionaries and others on natural language processing. The summarised results from the app are very random - pick any article other than the test case in the video and you won't get any useful output, 3 random sentences usually.

chr15 15y ago
I thought it was a stretch that D'Aloiso taught himself the linear algebra, statistics, probability theory, NLP, and machine learning required to implement such an algorithm. Especially since he doesn't take a deep interest in programming.
- dmn001 15y ago
  It appears to be an iteration of his previous app Trimit: http://www.fastcompany.com/1772823/the-15-year-old-brain-behind-the-trimit-app-and-why-young-app-store-entrepreneurs-can-succee http://www.fastcompany.com/1772823/the-15-year-old-brain-beh... http://techcrunch.com/2011/07/15/trimit-summarizes-emails-blog-posts-and-more-with-a-shake-of-your-iphone/ http://techcrunch.com/2011/07/15/trimit-summarizes-emails-bl... I am guessing that he just outsourced the AI/algorithm part based on the articles content: 'we' and 'The Trimit team' and Nick just designed the UI. Overall, great concept, but poor execution (in terms of accuracy) and journalists seem to be buying the hype.
raphman 15y ago
Is there any legal and simple way of obtaining the ipa file without using iTunes (i.e. on Linux)?
- eonefive 15y ago
  http://www.multiupload.com/RWD3XZMOW2 http://www.multiupload.com/RWD3XZMOW2
raphman 15y ago
From DataInfo.rtf in the iap: StopWords: common words in languages: Swedish, English, Mandarin, Italian, French, German, Spanish Japanese, Russian, Finnish, Dutch. Special Word: discard pronouns/trigger keywords in all of above languages. Currently removes all pronoun in sentences Stop Words From Where: http://www.ranks.nl/resources/stopwords.html http://www.ranks.nl/resources/stopwords.html http://www.lextek.com/manuals/onix/stopwords1.html http://www.lextek.com/manuals/onix/stopwords1.html http://www.lextek.com/manuals/onix/stopwords2.html http://www.lextek.com/manuals/onix/stopwords2.html http://www.link-assistant.com/seo-stop-words.html http://www.link-assistant.com/seo-stop-words.html English http://members.unine.ch/jacques.savoy/clef/index.html http://members.unine.ch/jacques.savoy/clef/index.html http://wiki.apache.org/solr/LanguageAnalysis http://wiki.apache.org/solr/LanguageAnalysis Other languages http://hi.baidu.com/zhaocy0113/blog/item/146b5c346a738c4d251f1496.html http://hi.baidu.com/zhaocy0113/blog/item/146b5c346a738c4d251... http://tribes.tribe.net/geographicalife/thread/98f6abb6-71bf-4982-93e4-701a5de30471 http://tribes.tribe.net/geographicalife/thread/98f6abb6-71bf... Chinese http://dnnspeedblog.com/SpeedBlog/PostID/3187/Japanese-Stop-words http://dnnspeedblog.com/SpeedBlog/PostID/3187/Japanese-Stop-... http://www.ranks.nl/stopwords/japanese.html http://www.ranks.nl/stopwords/japanese.html Japanese THEN ALL TRANSLATE ENGLISH FIRST STUFF LENGTH STOP: 19,070 LENGTH GLOBAL: 8059 LENGTH SPECIAL: 362 Good means no change/Draft little change/Bad 000s