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> not so different from posting their whereabouts when they're using a different form of transportation As someone pointed out over in Fedi-land, this would be

> not so different from posting their whereabouts when they're using a different form of transportation As someone pointed out over in Fedi-land, this would be broad enough to cover sports fixtures because you know where players are going to be (live location) and you know how they're likely going to get there (coach from local hotels if you're a UK footballer).

mcv 4y ago
Presence at a specific public event with an audience specifically to see them, is not the same thing as constantly tracking and publishing someone's whereabouts.
- zimpenfish 4y ago
  > Presence at a specific public event with an audience specifically to see them But that's not what was said - there was no exception carved out for that.
- Jochim 4y ago
  The location of a private plane is also not the same as publishing an individual's whereabouts. The solution to people knowing the location of your private plane is really simple: Don't own a private plane. Most of us are already doing it.
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  - mcv 4y ago
    > Don't own a private plane. That is of course the better solution. There's something perverse about the entire concept of a private plane. Still, as much as I dislike his descent into madness, I do understand Musk's safety concerns here.
    - jacquesm 4y ago
      Well, due to the Streisand effect if there was a safety concern before it is now magnified.
- cycomanic 4y ago
  Yes and the location of a private plane does not publish someone's whereabouts. It's a freaking plane! That's about as accurate with respect to his whereabouts as Elon Musks home address (likely significantly less accurate).
- sc0ttyd 4y ago
  But nobody is "constantly tracking and publishing his whereabouts". The information published is not constant: it is published only when a plane takes off or lands. The information is not a person's whereabouts - it is that of a vehicle It could be argued that taking a flight in a private jet is just as much an example of what you term a public event as being at a sports event is, since private jets are required by law to broadcast their exact id and location whenever they are in flight.
  - mcv 4y ago
    > The information published is not constant: it is published only when a plane takes off or lands. > the information is not a person's whereabouts - it is that of a vehicle So would you be comfortable with someone publishing the location of your car every time you get in your car? Of course the location of your car isn't public, only its ownership. But the location of your house is. So what if someone publishes every time someone enters or leaves your home? I think that would be a pretty dramatic violation of privacy. > It could be argued that taking a flight in a private jet is just as much an example of what you term a public event as being at a sports event is, since private jets are required by law to broadcast their exact id and location whenever they are in flight. No, because nobody is flying jets for an audience outside that jet. Except maybe at air shows and the like. It's the audience that makes it a public event, not the fact that it happens outside and is not secret.
  - shkkmo 4y ago
    > It could be argued that taking a flight in a private jet is just as much an example of what you term a public event as being at a sports event is, since private jets are required by law to broadcast their exact id and location whenever they are in flight. That would be a pretty stupid argument to make. Is it one you are seriously putting forward? Cars are required to carry license plates, that doesn't mean that using a crowdsourced license plate reader to track and publish the live location of the car isn't a massive invasion of privacy. Please stop arguing for legitimizing surveillance because you hate some rich white guy.
    - fragmede 4y ago

mcv 4y ago

Presence at a specific public event with an audience specifically to see them, is not the same thing as constantly tracking and publishing someone's whereabouts.

zimpenfish 4y ago
> Presence at a specific public event with an audience specifically to see them But that's not what was said - there was no exception carved out for that.
Jochim 4y ago
The location of a private plane is also not the same as publishing an individual's whereabouts. The solution to people knowing the location of your private plane is really simple: Don't own a private plane. Most of us are already doing it.
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- mcv 4y ago
  > Don't own a private plane. That is of course the better solution. There's something perverse about the entire concept of a private plane. Still, as much as I dislike his descent into madness, I do understand Musk's safety concerns here.
  - jacquesm 4y ago
    Well, due to the Streisand effect if there was a safety concern before it is now magnified.
cycomanic 4y ago
Yes and the location of a private plane does not publish someone's whereabouts. It's a freaking plane! That's about as accurate with respect to his whereabouts as Elon Musks home address (likely significantly less accurate).
sc0ttyd 4y ago
But nobody is "constantly tracking and publishing his whereabouts". The information published is not constant: it is published only when a plane takes off or lands. The information is not a person's whereabouts - it is that of a vehicle It could be argued that taking a flight in a private jet is just as much an example of what you term a public event as being at a sports event is, since private jets are required by law to broadcast their exact id and location whenever they are in flight.
- mcv 4y ago
  > The information published is not constant: it is published only when a plane takes off or lands. > the information is not a person's whereabouts - it is that of a vehicle So would you be comfortable with someone publishing the location of your car every time you get in your car? Of course the location of your car isn't public, only its ownership. But the location of your house is. So what if someone publishes every time someone enters or leaves your home? I think that would be a pretty dramatic violation of privacy. > It could be argued that taking a flight in a private jet is just as much an example of what you term a public event as being at a sports event is, since private jets are required by law to broadcast their exact id and location whenever they are in flight. No, because nobody is flying jets for an audience outside that jet. Except maybe at air shows and the like. It's the audience that makes it a public event, not the fact that it happens outside and is not secret.
- shkkmo 4y ago
  > It could be argued that taking a flight in a private jet is just as much an example of what you term a public event as being at a sports event is, since private jets are required by law to broadcast their exact id and location whenever they are in flight. That would be a pretty stupid argument to make. Is it one you are seriously putting forward? Cars are required to carry license plates, that doesn't mean that using a crowdsourced license plate reader to track and publish the live location of the car isn't a massive invasion of privacy. Please stop arguing for legitimizing surveillance because you hate some rich white guy.
  - fragmede 4y ago