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Then why isn't OpenSky (where elonjet gets data from) and sites like Flightradar24 being sued by Elon then? They publish/provide the exact same info. The only
by ssnistfajen 4y ago
Then why isn't OpenSky (where elonjet gets data from) and sites like Flightradar24 being sued by Elon then? They publish/provide the exact same info.
The only bad faith argument here is claiming publishing publicly available information is somehow endangerment.
- extropy 4y agoLet me argue from the other end. The incident happened, which is obv not good. What where the causes? How can we prevent this from happening again? What do other high profile perons do to prevent this from happening?
- Eisenstein 4y ago> What where the causes? Elon loves to shove himself front and center into the public eye and to stoke a fanbase. Large groups of people inevitably contain some crazy ones. Obsessive para-social relations often lead to unhinged fans stalking or harassing the targets of their obsession. This is so common it has a term coined by Eminem: "Stan". > How can we prevent this from happening again? Celebrities are often stalked not just by fans but by reporters. Princess Di was arguably put in a situation by photographers which led to a car crash and her death. It appears the solutions are either: (1) Don't be famous, or be the type of famous person that has a low profile (there are a lot of them) (2) If you are a billionaire then you can afford a security detail -- get one (3) Support real mental health efforts and legislation which funds support for people with mental health issues, instead of sticking them in prison or making them live on the street
- convery 4y agoSo the tl;dr: "If you don't want your kid to be stalked, and the car driving them assaulted, surround them with bodyguards 24/7 or stop being famous". HN really is turning into Reddit these days..
- Eisenstein 4y ago> "If you don't want your kid to be stalked, and the car driving them assaulted, surround them with bodyguards 24/7 or stop being famous" The only defense against stalkers is to avoid being stalked or to physically prevent them from stalking you. What is your solution?
- djbebs 4y agoNot having laws that actively enable the stalking is a good start
- Eisenstein 4y agoWhat are some examples of these laws?
- BlargMcLarg 4y agoAnd Elon also goes against common advice and purposely paints a giant target on himself. Not all too irrelevant considering kids are taught at age 2 and held accountable for creating enemies. Elon's case isn't exactly average even among the ultra-rich.
- baby 4y agoevery celebrity is stalked by paparazzi btw, imo the job should be illegal
- jfoster 4y agoBecause those websites are not tools aimed toward targeting him specifically and tying his name to a particular airplane.
- ssnistfajen 4y agoElon tied his name to a particular airplane when he purchased said airplane.
- _djo_ 4y agoI expect he will sue those next, forcing them out of business and taking away an extremely useful tool for both general interest and holding people, companies, and countries accountable.
- ssnistfajen 4y agoI really don't see how he has a valid case against them as ADS-B data have been public for a long time. An expensive case with very slim chances of winning. Elon is literally scope creep personified. Several of his companies are at crucial stages of management yet this is what he chooses to spend time and energy on (or perhaps that's intentional?),.
- _djo_ 4y agoDoesn’t need one. Even with SLAPP laws he can make life difficult enough for these sites, none of which are huge with substantial resources, to force many or most to give up and create a serious chilling effect.
- jacquesm 4y agoHe'd have to do this all over the world, good luck with that.