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Why are people still working there? Is it just those who are stuck on a visa or have severe financial problems? Are these people truly enthusiastic about the mi

Why are people still working there? Is it just those who are stuck on a visa or have severe financial problems? Are these people truly enthusiastic about the mission?

tehbeard 4y ago
Statistics dictates there might, just might, be one or two that believe him. The rest are probably a mix of visa lock-in, 2 months from retirement, not quite found somewhere to land, and "self-sacrifice" going down with the ship to try and limit the blast radius
bionsystem 4y ago
Could it be that, given that other tech companies (and that includes giants), are laying off quite a bit, it's just too risky to quit and it's better to just play for time ? I mean if I had the choice between $10k per month or $0 for the next few months during a recession, I'd bite my tongue and stay with the bad guy for as long as possible.
majkinetor 4y ago
I think its probably the opposite - those who are "stuck" want to be there. The pure fact that twitter still functions without a problem after laying off half of employees is a testament that they werent needed (although it is still soon to tell). Don't say "poor IT workers" please .... its emberrasing.
- rhaway84773 4y ago
  I doubt there’s a single major tech website which will stop functioning within months even if you layoff the entire tech staff. If that happened, it would imply that running the website requires constant manual human intervention. The problems arise as time and debt accrues and when you try and make changes. And every change Twitter has made has been a mess so far. Twitter Blue being implemented and then unimplemented and then postponed. The whole ElonJet block, unblock, block saga. Drawing any judgments about Twitter right now is way too early in either direction. Most tech companies took on too many workers during the pandemic and so most have a lot of fat to cut. The big issue with Twitter’s cuts were their arbitrary nature, as opposed to the size of the cut necessarily. We will see the impact, if any, over the next couple of years as Twitter has to start introducing new changes.
  - majkinetor 4y ago
    And yet its apparently enough time to say things like 'every change is a mess'. > The big issue with Twitter’s cuts were their arbitrary nature, as opposed to the size of the cut necessarily There is collateral damage to basically any intervention. Its most probable that detailed analysis of every employee would not be financially and temporarly justified. And you can always bring most people back if you really want tha.
- dd82 4y ago
  I disagree, many of them are likely on H1B visas, which are tied to employment and you need to find a job within a specific time range before the visa is revoked.
  - majkinetor 4y ago
    Those poor IT workers....
phendrenad2 4y ago
Maybe he's offering them more money?

Why are people still working there? Is it just those who are stuck on a visa or have severe financial problems? Are these people truly enthusiastic about the mission?

tehbeard 4y ago

Statistics dictates there might, just might, be one or two that believe him. The rest are probably a mix of visa lock-in, 2 months from retirement, not quite found somewhere to land, and "self-sacrifice" going down with the ship to try and limit the blast radius

bionsystem 4y ago

Could it be that, given that other tech companies (and that includes giants), are laying off quite a bit, it's just too risky to quit and it's better to just play for time ? I mean if I had the choice between $10k per month or $0 for the next few months during a recession, I'd bite my tongue and stay with the bad guy for as long as possible.

majkinetor 4y ago

I think its probably the opposite - those who are "stuck" want to be there. The pure fact that twitter still functions without a problem after laying off half of employees is a testament that they werent needed (although it is still soon to tell). Don't say "poor IT workers" please .... its emberrasing.

rhaway84773 4y ago
I doubt there’s a single major tech website which will stop functioning within months even if you layoff the entire tech staff. If that happened, it would imply that running the website requires constant manual human intervention. The problems arise as time and debt accrues and when you try and make changes. And every change Twitter has made has been a mess so far. Twitter Blue being implemented and then unimplemented and then postponed. The whole ElonJet block, unblock, block saga. Drawing any judgments about Twitter right now is way too early in either direction. Most tech companies took on too many workers during the pandemic and so most have a lot of fat to cut. The big issue with Twitter’s cuts were their arbitrary nature, as opposed to the size of the cut necessarily. We will see the impact, if any, over the next couple of years as Twitter has to start introducing new changes.
- majkinetor 4y ago
  And yet its apparently enough time to say things like 'every change is a mess'. > The big issue with Twitter’s cuts were their arbitrary nature, as opposed to the size of the cut necessarily There is collateral damage to basically any intervention. Its most probable that detailed analysis of every employee would not be financially and temporarly justified. And you can always bring most people back if you really want tha.
dd82 4y ago
I disagree, many of them are likely on H1B visas, which are tied to employment and you need to find a job within a specific time range before the visa is revoked.
- majkinetor 4y ago
  Those poor IT workers....

phendrenad2 4y ago

Maybe he's offering them more money?