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I would not want to ho to space without full redundancy for getting back. Then again, I don't want to go to space at all with current tech and my opinion is pr

I would not want to ho to space without full redundancy for getting back. Then again, I don't want to go to space at all with current tech and my opinion is probably different from those who do.

dylan604 4y ago
if they knocked on my door today with an offer to, i'd leave without packing a bag first.
- aaron695 4y ago
- dotancohen 4y ago
  Same, even if the offer was "we need to send a live human to Mars to see how he'll die, to improve the next one". My kids would all get kisses and I'm off to die en route to Mars, no regrets.
  - SapporoChris 4y ago
    Fool, do not throw your life away. There is no nobility in doing what can be accomplished without risk to human life. Robotics vs Human exploration: Robotics win. Full stop. Anything a human can do in space or on another planet, a robot can do, only cheaper and without the risk of losing a life.
    - dark-star 4y ago
      Why do you assume that this is about "nobility"? I would guess it's just to satisfy a personal curiosity. A feeling I totally share. There's a difference between watching a livestream and actually being there, just as there's a difference between seeing a picture of $COUNTRY vs. actually visiting
      - SapporoChris 4y ago
        Okay, sure, curiosity. You want to sacrifice your life (a life) for curiosity, when robotics can fulfill the need without loss of life. Oh, a personal experience, that will justify the loss of life?
        ezzaf 4y ago
        Every life is lost eventually, all we have along the way is personal experiences.
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      - aaaa4444 4y ago
        There's also a huge difference from just seeing a shuttle take off on TV vs in real life from relatively close... Can't even imagine being in it.
    - bregma 4y ago
      This is why no one has scaled the peak of Everest or stood on the South Pole. It's also why we still do bloodletting and watch our friends and relatives die from common diseases and infections. I for one want to soar to the heavens and experience it first hand, not vicariously through staring at a screen full of numbers. Exploration is a human experience, not just a way to get grant money to invest for retirement.
      - pclmulqdq 4y ago
        Nobody scaled Everest until they were confident they could get back down. The same for the south pole (although that didn't turn out as well as Everest).
    - dotancohen 4y ago
      Nothing noble really, just a personal dream. Lots of people have faced certain death for less. Going out on one's own terms, to fulfill a dream, is probably the best way to go.
  - mickael-kerjean 4y ago
    Actually do someone here know the odds of survival for the crew during apolo 11? more than 70% or less?
    - sebzim4500 4y ago
      I've heard interviews with engineers looking back where some say it was 2/3 and some say 1/2. Then again, there are plenty of quotes from NASA engineers describing the 1/10,000 per flight expected fatalities of shuttle as being ridiculously pessimistic, so clearly this is hard to estimate.
      - HPsquared 4y ago
        These types of calculations tend to suffer from the "unknown unknowns" side of things. The number only includes "known unknowns".
    - pgreenwood 4y ago
      Anyone's guess I suppose, but Neil Armstrong is quoted as saying that he thought they had a 90% chance of returning to the earth safely and a 50% chance of a successful landing. Quote is at around 19.00 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJzOIh2eHqQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJzOIh2eHqQ
  - notfromhere 4y ago
    This is the most depressing thing I've read on this website. There's no nobility in pointlessly dying on a rock in space.
    - dotancohen 4y ago
      Nobility is not my goal.
    - d0mine 4y ago
      > rock in space. What do you think Earth is? It is even less than a rock: looking from some distance, it is just a pale blue dot https://youtu.be/wupToqz1e2g https://youtu.be/wupToqz1e2g

I would not want to ho to space without full redundancy for getting back. Then again, I don't want to go to space at all with current tech and my opinion is probably different from those who do.

dylan604 4y ago

if they knocked on my door today with an offer to, i'd leave without packing a bag first.

aaron695 4y ago
dotancohen 4y ago
Same, even if the offer was "we need to send a live human to Mars to see how he'll die, to improve the next one". My kids would all get kisses and I'm off to die en route to Mars, no regrets.
- SapporoChris 4y ago
  Fool, do not throw your life away. There is no nobility in doing what can be accomplished without risk to human life. Robotics vs Human exploration: Robotics win. Full stop. Anything a human can do in space or on another planet, a robot can do, only cheaper and without the risk of losing a life.
  - dark-star 4y ago
    Why do you assume that this is about "nobility"? I would guess it's just to satisfy a personal curiosity. A feeling I totally share. There's a difference between watching a livestream and actually being there, just as there's a difference between seeing a picture of $COUNTRY vs. actually visiting
    - SapporoChris 4y ago
      Okay, sure, curiosity. You want to sacrifice your life (a life) for curiosity, when robotics can fulfill the need without loss of life. Oh, a personal experience, that will justify the loss of life?
      - ezzaf 4y ago
        Every life is lost eventually, all we have along the way is personal experiences.
      - deleted 4y ago
        [deleted]
    - aaaa4444 4y ago
      There's also a huge difference from just seeing a shuttle take off on TV vs in real life from relatively close... Can't even imagine being in it.
  - bregma 4y ago
    This is why no one has scaled the peak of Everest or stood on the South Pole. It's also why we still do bloodletting and watch our friends and relatives die from common diseases and infections. I for one want to soar to the heavens and experience it first hand, not vicariously through staring at a screen full of numbers. Exploration is a human experience, not just a way to get grant money to invest for retirement.
    - pclmulqdq 4y ago
      Nobody scaled Everest until they were confident they could get back down. The same for the south pole (although that didn't turn out as well as Everest).
  - dotancohen 4y ago
    Nothing noble really, just a personal dream. Lots of people have faced certain death for less. Going out on one's own terms, to fulfill a dream, is probably the best way to go.
- mickael-kerjean 4y ago
  Actually do someone here know the odds of survival for the crew during apolo 11? more than 70% or less?
  - sebzim4500 4y ago
    I've heard interviews with engineers looking back where some say it was 2/3 and some say 1/2. Then again, there are plenty of quotes from NASA engineers describing the 1/10,000 per flight expected fatalities of shuttle as being ridiculously pessimistic, so clearly this is hard to estimate.
    - HPsquared 4y ago
      These types of calculations tend to suffer from the "unknown unknowns" side of things. The number only includes "known unknowns".
  - pgreenwood 4y ago
    Anyone's guess I suppose, but Neil Armstrong is quoted as saying that he thought they had a 90% chance of returning to the earth safely and a 50% chance of a successful landing. Quote is at around 19.00 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJzOIh2eHqQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJzOIh2eHqQ
- notfromhere 4y ago
  This is the most depressing thing I've read on this website. There's no nobility in pointlessly dying on a rock in space.
  - dotancohen 4y ago
    Nobility is not my goal.
  - d0mine 4y ago
    > rock in space. What do you think Earth is? It is even less than a rock: looking from some distance, it is just a pale blue dot https://youtu.be/wupToqz1e2g https://youtu.be/wupToqz1e2g