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(In the case of Canvas) This is done surreptitiously without the student's knowledge. As far as I know, there is a separate lockdown proctoring browser which is

(In the case of Canvas) This is done surreptitiously without the student's knowledge. As far as I know, there is a separate lockdown proctoring browser which is for actual exams, but then there are some other quizzes which do not require using the locked down browser, but they nevertheless log a bunch of stuff that get sent to the instructor, who often may not know what they actually indicate and proceed to accuse students of cheating. On your second point about the comparison of human proctor and this: Lots of things are fine to do on a small scale, but becomes terribly invasive when you do it on a massive scale with the aid of computers. You may accept that the person driving behind you may take a note of your license plate, but would you say the same if someone installed a high resolution webcam on the pedestrian footbridge to see every single car that went through forever? The general issue with computer-assisted surveillance is that it is cheaply scalable and nearly impossible to erase. Lastly, is there really a point in preventing the use of external information aids (textbooks, notes, Google) in an age where information is so widely available? Rote memorization has never been a good way to truly learn things, and maybe we should do away with this tradition of tests based on information reproduction.

andai 4y ago
Re: Your last point: If we test for understanding instead of facts, that is much more expensive to test for (as it cannot be automated... yet). On top of that, cheating is still possible with readily available tools, even today! (For example, that one AI that shall not be named ;)
kristiandupont 4y ago
I don't follow why you are so opposed to the visibility api. I agree that it's annoying if used to ensure that I watch a certain video, but besides from that it doesn't seem malicious to me. >they nevertheless log a bunch of stuff that get sent to the instructor ..what sort of stuff? And how is it related to the visibility api?
- alwayslikethis 4y ago
  > I don't follow why you are so opposed to the visibility api. It's in the second sentence. The ability for a website to see when you click on things outside of the page itself (either by changing active window or tab) is quite unexpected from an end-user perspective > what sort of stuff? And how is it related to the visibility api? It's in the linked article. At least a few of those events are implemented with the visibility api.

andai 4y ago

Re: Your last point: If we test for understanding instead of facts, that is much more expensive to test for (as it cannot be automated... yet). On top of that, cheating is still possible with readily available tools, even today! (For example, that one AI that shall not be named ;)

kristiandupont 4y ago

I don't follow why you are so opposed to the visibility api. I agree that it's annoying if used to ensure that I watch a certain video, but besides from that it doesn't seem malicious to me. >they nevertheless log a bunch of stuff that get sent to the instructor ..what sort of stuff? And how is it related to the visibility api?

alwayslikethis 4y ago
> I don't follow why you are so opposed to the visibility api. It's in the second sentence. The ability for a website to see when you click on things outside of the page itself (either by changing active window or tab) is quite unexpected from an end-user perspective > what sort of stuff? And how is it related to the visibility api? It's in the linked article. At least a few of those events are implemented with the visibility api.