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Musk disagreed with you until today, he explicitly said that he would be leaving this exact account up because he believed in free speech even when it was about

Musk disagreed with you until today, he explicitly said that he would be leaving this exact account up because he believed in free speech even when it was about his location.

theteapot 4y ago
Yes I know. He changed his mind I guess. He should admit he was wrong and clarify that tweet.
- pgodzin 4y ago
  What about all the other things he's wrong about that he just hasn't been personally aggrieved by yet?
  - ShredKazoo 4y ago
  - deleted 4y ago
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  - kibwen 4y ago
    Maybe if one of Elon Musk's children came out as trans he'd realize that trans people are just people and stop needlessly demonizing them with right-wing invective. Oh, wait...
WalterBright 4y ago
It is possible for people to learn and change their minds. I'm pretty sure that doxxing is not allowed on HN, Reddit, and other platforms, including the D language forums. I'm good with that.
- pgodzin 4y ago
  The problem is that he is only learning when it negatively affects him. Plenty of people have already learned many of these lessons, he just has no interest in listening to them.
  - WalterBright 4y ago
    People learning from experience is a good thing.
    - bmlzootown 4y ago
      If we, as a species, only learned from our own personal experiences, we'd still be dwelling in caves.
    - rchaud 4y ago
      He is 50 years old.
    - jacquesm 4y ago
      It would be, if they then use that experience to modify their stance in a consistent manner but that is not what is happening here.
    - AlexandrB 4y ago
      Sure. But if the only way Elon can learn why something is bad is through first-hand experience, will he act against speech that threatens minority groups he's not part of? What about those that are economically disadvantaged? You can already see this lack of empathy at work in how he's trying to claw back severance he owes Twitter's ex-employees.
- brookst 4y ago
  I sincerely hope he learns and changes his mind. Evidence so far is that he’s not principled enough to do so. “Free speech absolutism” just meant he didn’t give a fuck as long as he wasn’t the one at risk. I don’t think that will change, but I’d love to be wrong.
- antonvs 4y ago
  > It is possible for people to learn and change their minds. In this case, it seems to be more about serving his self-interest. What do you think he might have learned beyond that?
- Adrox 4y ago
  You are clearly not paying attention since the account is still up in instagram and facebook: https://www.instagram.com/elonmusksjet/?hl=en https://www.instagram.com/elonmusksjet/?hl=en

Musk disagreed with you until today, he explicitly said that he would be leaving this exact account up because he believed in free speech even when it was about his location.

theteapot 4y ago

Yes I know. He changed his mind I guess. He should admit he was wrong and clarify that tweet.

pgodzin 4y ago
What about all the other things he's wrong about that he just hasn't been personally aggrieved by yet?
- ShredKazoo 4y ago
- deleted 4y ago
  [deleted]
- kibwen 4y ago
  Maybe if one of Elon Musk's children came out as trans he'd realize that trans people are just people and stop needlessly demonizing them with right-wing invective. Oh, wait...

WalterBright 4y ago

It is possible for people to learn and change their minds. I'm pretty sure that doxxing is not allowed on HN, Reddit, and other platforms, including the D language forums. I'm good with that.

pgodzin 4y ago
The problem is that he is only learning when it negatively affects him. Plenty of people have already learned many of these lessons, he just has no interest in listening to them.
- WalterBright 4y ago
  People learning from experience is a good thing.
  - bmlzootown 4y ago
    If we, as a species, only learned from our own personal experiences, we'd still be dwelling in caves.
  - rchaud 4y ago
    He is 50 years old.
  - jacquesm 4y ago
    It would be, if they then use that experience to modify their stance in a consistent manner but that is not what is happening here.
  - AlexandrB 4y ago
    Sure. But if the only way Elon can learn why something is bad is through first-hand experience, will he act against speech that threatens minority groups he's not part of? What about those that are economically disadvantaged? You can already see this lack of empathy at work in how he's trying to claw back severance he owes Twitter's ex-employees.
brookst 4y ago
I sincerely hope he learns and changes his mind. Evidence so far is that he’s not principled enough to do so. “Free speech absolutism” just meant he didn’t give a fuck as long as he wasn’t the one at risk. I don’t think that will change, but I’d love to be wrong.
antonvs 4y ago
> It is possible for people to learn and change their minds. In this case, it seems to be more about serving his self-interest. What do you think he might have learned beyond that?
Adrox 4y ago
You are clearly not paying attention since the account is still up in instagram and facebook: https://www.instagram.com/elonmusksjet/?hl=en https://www.instagram.com/elonmusksjet/?hl=en