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There's not been a police shooting in my city for many years, and I suspect it's similar in many other small cities in the USA. Are we talking about people in

There's not been a police shooting in my city for many years, and I suspect it's similar in many other small cities in the USA. Are we talking about people in neighborhoods patrolled by officers of a different race? Are we talking about people who are or have been engaged in prohibited activity? Are we talking about big strong men who don't fear violence against themselves because they don't feel they're a target? Where's the nuance?

happytoexplain 4y ago
We're talking about the generalized case, as per the article. It would be noble to try to derive dynamic advice based on variables, but probably not realistic. People either trust or distrust their local police based on the information available to them and their experiences, which may be limited, but we all still make forced judgement calls regardless.
- engineer_22 4y ago
  I don't think that's right. In general we have police because they at some point were deemed necessary for public order. When was it generally agreed that police are detrimental to community life? EDIT: The top line is from theanarchistlibrary.org Who are the target audience of a publication like that? What kind of person reads the anarchist library, what do they have in common?
  - wahnfrieden 4y ago
    Anarchists are respectable people who deserve dignity, not automatic criminals. Why are you using hardened political rhetoric to suggest otherwise simply based on political values
    - engineer_22 4y ago
      I'm not using any political rhetoric, and never accused anarchists of being criminals.
      - wahnfrieden 4y ago
        "cops were made for community welfare" is ahistorical political rhetoric. apologies for taking provocation from your hints about questioning anarchist audience/motive in relation to community welfare. btw, the circle around the anarchist Ⓐ means "order" - anarchists are as interested in community as you are, the difference is in terms of political means (anarchists don't believe the state, legal and state-sponsored policing systems have community's best interests in mind or incentive). anarchist literature is for everyone.
  - genewitch 4y ago
    > they at some point were deemed necessary for public order. yeah, around when those pesky slaves were escaping and their owners sent squads out to collect their missing property. I'm not sure this is the butt-slam you were hoping for, partner.
    - engineer_22 4y ago
      You're trying to bait me. I think we both know policing has a history and tradition in areas of the United States that outlawed slavery long prior to the civil war.

happytoexplain 4y ago

We're talking about the generalized case, as per the article. It would be noble to try to derive dynamic advice based on variables, but probably not realistic. People either trust or distrust their local police based on the information available to them and their experiences, which may be limited, but we all still make forced judgement calls regardless.

engineer_22 4y ago
I don't think that's right. In general we have police because they at some point were deemed necessary for public order. When was it generally agreed that police are detrimental to community life? EDIT: The top line is from theanarchistlibrary.org Who are the target audience of a publication like that? What kind of person reads the anarchist library, what do they have in common?
- wahnfrieden 4y ago
  Anarchists are respectable people who deserve dignity, not automatic criminals. Why are you using hardened political rhetoric to suggest otherwise simply based on political values
  - engineer_22 4y ago
    I'm not using any political rhetoric, and never accused anarchists of being criminals.
    - wahnfrieden 4y ago
      "cops were made for community welfare" is ahistorical political rhetoric. apologies for taking provocation from your hints about questioning anarchist audience/motive in relation to community welfare. btw, the circle around the anarchist Ⓐ means "order" - anarchists are as interested in community as you are, the difference is in terms of political means (anarchists don't believe the state, legal and state-sponsored policing systems have community's best interests in mind or incentive). anarchist literature is for everyone.
- genewitch 4y ago
  > they at some point were deemed necessary for public order. yeah, around when those pesky slaves were escaping and their owners sent squads out to collect their missing property. I'm not sure this is the butt-slam you were hoping for, partner.
  - engineer_22 4y ago
    You're trying to bait me. I think we both know policing has a history and tradition in areas of the United States that outlawed slavery long prior to the civil war.