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Just because information is publicly available doesn’t mean it’s not doxxing. It’s the act itself. Otherwise every accusation of doxxing could be denied with a

by koolba 4y ago

Just because information is publicly available doesn’t mean it’s not doxxing. It’s the act itself. Otherwise every accusation of doxxing could be denied with a single level of indirection.

Jarwain 4y ago
Exactly. Just because information is publicly available, doesn't mean it's easy to find or access. Doxxing makes it easy to access and reference, and bridges the gap between a pseudonyms and real identity
jacquesm 4y ago
The bar for doxxing is that the information is either private or difficult to obtain and pertains to a person. That bar is not met here.
- catiopatio 4y ago
  No, the bar for “doxxing” is whether you’re disseminating private or sensitive identifying information about a person, and particularly if you’re doing so with malicious intent. Given my real name — which is available on Twitter — my home address is not difficult to obtain from online, public, governmental real estate records. Despite the fact that the information is public, it would still be doxxing — not to mention inappropriate, violating, and frightening — if someone decided to dig up that address and post it to a broad audience on Twitter that would have otherwise been unaware of it. This is even more true if that audience is hostile, and my information is being posted in an attempt to harass and/or intimidate.
  - jacquesm 4y ago
    It helps if you use a word if you use the common definition of that word. If you want to expand the definition of the word doxxing then that's fine but you'll have to have that conversation all by yourself. I'll just use this one: "Doxing" is a neologism. It originates from a spelling alteration of the abbreviation "docs" (for "documents") and refers to "compiling and releasing a dossier of personal information on someone".Essentially, doxing is revealing and publicizing the records of an individual, which were previously private or difficult to obtain. " From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doxing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doxing So this isn't doxing, since the information isn't private and it isn't difficult to obtain.
    - catiopatio 4y ago
      I’ll just use this one, from the first paragraph of the very same page you cited: > Doxing or doxxing (originally spelled in 1337 as d0xing) is the act of publicly providing personally identifiable information about an individual or organization, usually via the internet. Historically, the term has been used interchangeably to refer to both the aggregration of this information from public source or record databases and social media websites (like Facebook), as well as the publication of previously private information obtained through criminal or otherwise fraudulent means such as hacking and social engineering. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doxing https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doxing So this is doxxing, and you dishonestly cherry-picked an incomplete definition. In case any confusion remains, here’s the Oxford Languages’ definition: > search for and publish private or identifying information about (a particular individual) on the internet, typically with malicious intent.
      - jacquesm 4y ago
        There is nothing 'personally identifiable' about an airplane, it's a plane, not a person. Posting your home address which you've kept out of the public eye is doxing, posting the whereabouts of any aircraft that broadcasts that information to all receivers is not. That's why you can find this information all over the internet, the only place where you currently can't find Musk's jet is on Twitter. And that's before we get into his free-speech arguments which apparently were a bit inconsistent. Or would you like to accuse the FAA of doxing as well?
        peter422 4y ago
        Yeah I don't understand this at all. If I told you right now that I'm arriving at LAX in 1 hour you still have no chance of finding me, and it's transient, I'll be somewhere else private very soon. I don't see how it's any different from a public figure saying they'll be attending any public event.
        pclmulqdq 4y ago
        How far out of the public eye does your address have to be? I have filed a few patents and I run a company, and both of those put my address in prominently searchable public records. If you dig a little deeper, the deed to my house is a public record accessible through a 15-year-old website, and going even further, you can do a credit report on me and find all of my past addresses. I know people wish this weren't the case, but your address isn't exactly private information. Anyone can find it easily for anyone else.

by koolba 4y ago

Just because information is publicly available doesn’t mean it’s not doxxing. It’s the act itself. Otherwise every accusation of doxxing could be denied with a single level of indirection.

Jarwain 4y ago

Exactly. Just because information is publicly available, doesn't mean it's easy to find or access. Doxxing makes it easy to access and reference, and bridges the gap between a pseudonyms and real identity

jacquesm 4y ago

The bar for doxxing is that the information is either private or difficult to obtain and pertains to a person. That bar is not met here.

catiopatio 4y ago
No, the bar for “doxxing” is whether you’re disseminating private or sensitive identifying information about a person, and particularly if you’re doing so with malicious intent. Given my real name — which is available on Twitter — my home address is not difficult to obtain from online, public, governmental real estate records. Despite the fact that the information is public, it would still be doxxing — not to mention inappropriate, violating, and frightening — if someone decided to dig up that address and post it to a broad audience on Twitter that would have otherwise been unaware of it. This is even more true if that audience is hostile, and my information is being posted in an attempt to harass and/or intimidate.
- jacquesm 4y ago
  It helps if you use a word if you use the common definition of that word. If you want to expand the definition of the word doxxing then that's fine but you'll have to have that conversation all by yourself. I'll just use this one: "Doxing" is a neologism. It originates from a spelling alteration of the abbreviation "docs" (for "documents") and refers to "compiling and releasing a dossier of personal information on someone".Essentially, doxing is revealing and publicizing the records of an individual, which were previously private or difficult to obtain. " From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doxing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doxing So this isn't doxing, since the information isn't private and it isn't difficult to obtain.
  - catiopatio 4y ago
    I’ll just use this one, from the first paragraph of the very same page you cited: > Doxing or doxxing (originally spelled in 1337 as d0xing) is the act of publicly providing personally identifiable information about an individual or organization, usually via the internet. Historically, the term has been used interchangeably to refer to both the aggregration of this information from public source or record databases and social media websites (like Facebook), as well as the publication of previously private information obtained through criminal or otherwise fraudulent means such as hacking and social engineering. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doxing https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doxing So this is doxxing, and you dishonestly cherry-picked an incomplete definition. In case any confusion remains, here’s the Oxford Languages’ definition: > search for and publish private or identifying information about (a particular individual) on the internet, typically with malicious intent.
    - jacquesm 4y ago
      There is nothing 'personally identifiable' about an airplane, it's a plane, not a person. Posting your home address which you've kept out of the public eye is doxing, posting the whereabouts of any aircraft that broadcasts that information to all receivers is not. That's why you can find this information all over the internet, the only place where you currently can't find Musk's jet is on Twitter. And that's before we get into his free-speech arguments which apparently were a bit inconsistent. Or would you like to accuse the FAA of doxing as well?
      - peter422 4y ago
        Yeah I don't understand this at all. If I told you right now that I'm arriving at LAX in 1 hour you still have no chance of finding me, and it's transient, I'll be somewhere else private very soon. I don't see how it's any different from a public figure saying they'll be attending any public event.
      - pclmulqdq 4y ago
        How far out of the public eye does your address have to be? I have filed a few patents and I run a company, and both of those put my address in prominently searchable public records. If you dig a little deeper, the deed to my house is a public record accessible through a 15-year-old website, and going even further, you can do a credit report on me and find all of my past addresses. I know people wish this weren't the case, but your address isn't exactly private information. Anyone can find it easily for anyone else.