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wait so you're saying doxing is on the same level as dissenting the government? one thing is broadcasting personal information about a citizen, one is protect

wait so you're saying doxing is on the same level as dissenting the government? one thing is broadcasting personal information about a citizen, one is protecting a citizens right to object to actions by their government. collecting public information is still doxxing. most doxxing involves only public information as it happens across the internet. edit: a downvote is not a rebuttal, sorry, try again.

jacquesm 4y ago
Aircraft are not citizens.
- hunterb123 4y ago
  So you wouldn't mind your car being tracked and publicly broadcast? It is just an automobile after all, and vehicles aren't citizens... Cue fallback argument. EDIT: added clarification to distinguish between Tweeting coordinates and Onstar services.
  - bombcar 4y ago
    I mean it is tracked quietly by those who care.
  - worker_thread 4y ago
    jacquesm didn't decided to be public figure who owns a jet, and no one asked Elon to do the same. Elon is free to walk away from it the moment he chooses to be.
maxerickson 4y ago
If you want to fly around in a jet, you have to follow the rules for jets. The idea that posting publicly available information to Twitter transforms it is silly.
ProjectArcturis 4y ago
Aircraft are all publicly tracked. All this account did was create a bot to take the info from the FAA site and post it to Twitter.
- hunterb123 4y ago
  Much information about a person is publicly available, that doesn't mean it's not doxxing when you gather it and broadcast it. Whether you are finding someone's email, or real name, or jet location, or home address, and then announce it, you are doxxing them.
  - enkid 4y ago
    There's a big difference between Elon and the average public.
  - pclmulqdq 4y ago
    Serious question: Why is a home address considered off limits? For most people, you can find their home address with 5 minutes of Googling. For someone like me, and I imagine the average HN reader, that time is more like 5 seconds. Your address is not usually considered private information, except in this context. We used to have a thing called the phone book that put everyone's name, phone number, and address together in a book and sent it out. None of those is a piece of private information.
VectorLock 4y ago
When he is crowing with #TwitterFiles faux leaks about how an internal cabal were making policy decisions about banning people, then making an extra-policy decision banning something he didn't like (posting public information) and then trying to backport policy for it.. The whole thing rings a bit hollow.
- deleted 4y ago
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- hunterb123 4y ago
  - dang 4y ago
    You've been posting a lot of comments lately using HN for ideological battle. We ban this sort of account, regardless of what they're battling for or against. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. Moreover we've warned you before: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33267564 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33267564 (Oct 2022) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29847640 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29847640 (Jan 2022) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29621408 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29621408 (Dec 2021) Besides that, someone has pointed out to me that your username is trollish (yes, I'm slow sometimes). We don't allow that - see https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=true&page=0&query=by:dang%20trollish%20username https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme.... Between that and your comments that have been breaking the rules, that's too much. I've therefore banned the account. If you don't want to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future. They're here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.
- UncleMeat 4y ago
  Nude pictures of Hunter Biden? Critical free speech. Publicly available location of Musk's private plane? Serious threat to human safety.
etchalon 4y ago
It's based on publicly available information, that is required to be publicly available by government regulation, specifically for the public good. https://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificates/aircraft_certification/aircraft_registry/about_aircraft_records https://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificates/aircraft_certifica...

jacquesm 4y ago

Aircraft are not citizens.

hunterb123 4y ago
So you wouldn't mind your car being tracked and publicly broadcast? It is just an automobile after all, and vehicles aren't citizens... Cue fallback argument. EDIT: added clarification to distinguish between Tweeting coordinates and Onstar services.
- bombcar 4y ago
  I mean it is tracked quietly by those who care.
- worker_thread 4y ago
  jacquesm didn't decided to be public figure who owns a jet, and no one asked Elon to do the same. Elon is free to walk away from it the moment he chooses to be.

maxerickson 4y ago

If you want to fly around in a jet, you have to follow the rules for jets. The idea that posting publicly available information to Twitter transforms it is silly.

ProjectArcturis 4y ago

Aircraft are all publicly tracked. All this account did was create a bot to take the info from the FAA site and post it to Twitter.

hunterb123 4y ago
Much information about a person is publicly available, that doesn't mean it's not doxxing when you gather it and broadcast it. Whether you are finding someone's email, or real name, or jet location, or home address, and then announce it, you are doxxing them.
- enkid 4y ago
  There's a big difference between Elon and the average public.
- pclmulqdq 4y ago
  Serious question: Why is a home address considered off limits? For most people, you can find their home address with 5 minutes of Googling. For someone like me, and I imagine the average HN reader, that time is more like 5 seconds. Your address is not usually considered private information, except in this context. We used to have a thing called the phone book that put everyone's name, phone number, and address together in a book and sent it out. None of those is a piece of private information.

VectorLock 4y ago

When he is crowing with #TwitterFiles faux leaks about how an internal cabal were making policy decisions about banning people, then making an extra-policy decision banning something he didn't like (posting public information) and then trying to backport policy for it.. The whole thing rings a bit hollow.

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hunterb123 4y ago
- dang 4y ago
  You've been posting a lot of comments lately using HN for ideological battle. We ban this sort of account, regardless of what they're battling for or against. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. Moreover we've warned you before: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33267564 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33267564 (Oct 2022) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29847640 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29847640 (Jan 2022) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29621408 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29621408 (Dec 2021) Besides that, someone has pointed out to me that your username is trollish (yes, I'm slow sometimes). We don't allow that - see https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=true&page=0&query=by:dang%20trollish%20username https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme.... Between that and your comments that have been breaking the rules, that's too much. I've therefore banned the account. If you don't want to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future. They're here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.
UncleMeat 4y ago
Nude pictures of Hunter Biden? Critical free speech. Publicly available location of Musk's private plane? Serious threat to human safety.

etchalon 4y ago

It's based on publicly available information, that is required to be publicly available by government regulation, specifically for the public good. https://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificates/aircraft_certification/aircraft_registry/about_aircraft_records https://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificates/aircraft_certifica...