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legal asked us to ban it again after they learned elon's goal. which was to shadownban-2.0 the account when needed to delay news of certain travel. he came up
by dfghjkl2589 4y ago
legal asked us to ban it again after they learned elon's goal.
which was to shadownban-2.0 the account when needed to delay news of certain travel. he came up with the idea when we pointed out other smaller accounts started to post the info and we were considering flagging them as bot last week.
- tough 4y agowait this is wild, so much for free speech 2.0
- sarahlwalks 4y agoWe might get tired of so much free speech. Hang on a second....<touches ear> I'm being told I'm actually sick of it right now
- hunterb123 4y agowait so you're saying doxing is on the same level as dissenting the government? one thing is broadcasting personal information about a citizen, one is protecting a citizens right to object to actions by their government. collecting public information is still doxxing. most doxxing involves only public information as it happens across the internet. edit: a downvote is not a rebuttal, sorry, try again.
- jacquesm 4y agoAircraft are not citizens.
- hunterb123 4y agoSo you wouldn't mind your car being tracked and publicly broadcast? It is just an automobile after all, and vehicles aren't citizens... Cue fallback argument. EDIT: added clarification to distinguish between Tweeting coordinates and Onstar services.
- bombcar 4y agoI mean it is tracked quietly by those who care.
- worker_thread 4y agojacquesm didn't decided to be public figure who owns a jet, and no one asked Elon to do the same. Elon is free to walk away from it the moment he chooses to be.
- maxerickson 4y agoIf you want to fly around in a jet, you have to follow the rules for jets. The idea that posting publicly available information to Twitter transforms it is silly.
- ProjectArcturis 4y agoAircraft are all publicly tracked. All this account did was create a bot to take the info from the FAA site and post it to Twitter.
- hunterb123 4y agoMuch information about a person is publicly available, that doesn't mean it's not doxxing when you gather it and broadcast it. Whether you are finding someone's email, or real name, or jet location, or home address, and then announce it, you are doxxing them.
- enkid 4y agoThere's a big difference between Elon and the average public.
- pclmulqdq 4y agoSerious question: Why is a home address considered off limits? For most people, you can find their home address with 5 minutes of Googling. For someone like me, and I imagine the average HN reader, that time is more like 5 seconds. Your address is not usually considered private information, except in this context. We used to have a thing called the phone book that put everyone's name, phone number, and address together in a book and sent it out. None of those is a piece of private information.
- VectorLock 4y agoWhen he is crowing with #TwitterFiles faux leaks about how an internal cabal were making policy decisions about banning people, then making an extra-policy decision banning something he didn't like (posting public information) and then trying to backport policy for it.. The whole thing rings a bit hollow.
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- dang 4y agoYou've been posting a lot of comments lately using HN for ideological battle. We ban this sort of account, regardless of what they're battling for or against. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. Moreover we've warned you before: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33267564 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33267564 (Oct 2022) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29847640 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29847640 (Jan 2022) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29621408 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29621408 (Dec 2021) Besides that, someone has pointed out to me that your username is trollish (yes, I'm slow sometimes). We don't allow that - see https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=true&page=0&query=by:dang%20trollish%20username https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme.... Between that and your comments that have been breaking the rules, that's too much. I've therefore banned the account. If you don't want to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future. They're here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.
- UncleMeat 4y agoNude pictures of Hunter Biden? Critical free speech. Publicly available location of Musk's private plane? Serious threat to human safety.
- etchalon 4y agoIt's based on publicly available information, that is required to be publicly available by government regulation, specifically for the public good. https://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificates/aircraft_certification/aircraft_registry/about_aircraft_records https://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificates/aircraft_certifica...
- memish 4y agoSo why are his haters still so angry? They are against free speech and supported the right for a private company to moderate how it wants. That's what they've been saying the past several years. Elon has come around to their position!
- JKCalhoun 4y agoAngry? Who knew irony could be so funny? Elon has been one of the funnier things to close out this mostly doleful year.
- vdfs 4y agoQuick questions for you, why are you still in Twitter? How is work there before and after?
- carabiner 4y agoFun fact, Leah Culver of Digg fame is still there: https://twitter.com/leahculver/status/1598842926934953984 https://twitter.com/leahculver/status/1598842926934953984
- andirk 4y agoDid Legal also tell you to disseminate said information to the public with your rando character handle account made 20 minutes ago?
- killdozer 4y agoThank god we have people like you looking out for the little guy.
- andirk 4y agoI am looking out for you, yes, little guy. Point is I am skeptical as to whether that individual has any actual insight. Then again, making a different account to post that one message may make sense since it is sensitive info. Sounds incorrect either way.
- bagels 4y agoAssuming this is true, and elonjet can post to multiple places... might make a good way to detect which travels are notable.
- ericpauley 4y agoThis. Given the moves are public elsewhere the shadow banning would leak more info!
- VectorLock 4y agoGood job Elon you just Warrant Canary'd ElonJet for them.
- dariusj18 4y agoSigint not his specialty
- robomartin 4y ago> to delay news of certain travel That does not sound unreasonable to me at all. In other words, the idea that some posts might warrant a delay for a range of issues or to allow for investigation. That, to me, again, sounds very sensible. In the case of the travel plans of certain high-profile people, you know, with so many crazy folks out there, yes, sure, give the news enough of a delay so the person can safely get to their destination. The world doesn't need to know when Elon, Messi, Buttigieg, Oprah or David Letterman in real time unless they choose to disclose details.
- 650REDHAIR 4y agoAll billionaires should be tracked 100% of the time.
- tshaddox 4y agoOr they could choose to fly commercial like a destitute multimillionaire. The only reason this information is public is that they literally own the jet and the locations of aircraft in public airspace is required to be broadcast for obvious reasons.
- bombcar 4y agoOr just rent a jet for secret shit and send ElonJet on a wild goose chase. It’s literally in the thousands to tens of thousands.
- riknos314 4y agoFlying commercial wouldn't gain Musk any anonymity. The second he sets foot in a public airport social media of all forms would be flooded with photos of him, what gate he's waiting at, etc. And that's MUCH worse for Musk because everyone and their uncle can see what gate the flight he boarded is going to disembark at, meaning a crowd of people with less-than-kind intentions would have time to gather there in advance of his arrival.
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- kivle 4y agohttps://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=a835af https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=a835af It's public information. Are you literally trying to ban the ADS system?
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