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Yeah... if he really cared about anyone else's personal safety other than his own, he wouldn't have fired the twitter safety team, and then not said anything ab

by bb88 4y ago

Yeah... if he really cared about anyone else's personal safety other than his own, he wouldn't have fired the twitter safety team, and then not said anything about a former twitter executive. https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/12/12/musk-twitter-harass-yoel-roth/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/12/12/musk-tw...

jacquesm 4y ago
Elon mostly cares about Elon and the rest of the world are cardboard NPCs to him as far as I'm interpreting all of his actions for the last two months.
- cagenut 4y ago
  you typo'd decades its just more clear to more remote/casual observers the last two months
  - jacquesm 4y ago
    Fair.
smcl 4y ago
I don’t even think it was particularly about his personal safety. So someone gets a notification he has landed in Miami - are they going to race to the airport, hop the fence, run to his plane and confront him? I genuinely think he just found it irritating that someone was trying to make him look bad. I don’t blame him, I’d probably feel the same way. But then I haven’t bought a social media platform and loudly and repeatedly proclaimed that I am a free-speech absolutist.
- dragontamer 4y ago
  This is all public info from the FAA. Unless Elon plans to ban the FAA from doing its job, people will know where Elon Musk's airplane is at all times. Banning a silly Twitter account that copy/pastes data from the FAA won't change a thing. The paparazzi have been using these things to follow celebrities since forever. It's an exorcise in ignorance to ignore the nature of FAA regulations / airplane tracking.
  - SXX 4y ago
    Actually it's not even information from FAA since ADS-B Exchange use information gathered by private individuals. AFAIK all you need to gather ADS-B information for your own location is Android Phone, $30 USB dongle and some Antena.
    - ravel-bar-foo 4y ago
      That will only let you know when the plane is overhead, and costs 30 USD more than Twitter.
  - polygamous_bat 4y ago
    > It's an exorcise in ignorance to ignore the nature of FAA regulations / airplane tracking. It may be more of an exercise of Elon flexing his $44B investment over the heaters and the poor people: by this point he knows that anyone even slightly left of center is not going to love him, so he's full on embracing the far/alt right crowd by "owning the libs". "Free speech" is lip service at max that some people fell for hook, line, and sinker.
  - smcl 4y ago
    Well that’s the other thing - banning the account on Twitter doesn’t make this go away. It just means people will follow them on FB or just use flightradar24 instead.
    - ChrisMarshallNY 4y ago
      Paging Ms. Streisand. Ms. Barbra Streisand, on the white courtesy phone...
  - squarefoot 4y ago
    Exactly. A thread on Twitter about his Jets wouldn't touch his personal safety since the data is public, but it would attract more among the people who don't like him, therefore he would be giving exposure to discussions against his public image. He has all rights to ban whoever he wishes since he owns the platform, but common sense should suggest him to stop talking about free speech since he's in no position to lecture anyone on the matter.
- Geee 4y ago
  His son X got threatened. Someone blocked the car and jumped on the hood. That's why they made this rule so suddenly.
  - browserman 4y ago
    Definitely believe this self-justifying story made up on the spot by a notoriously inveterate liar.
    - Geee 4y ago
      He just posted a video of the guy: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603235998263123969 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603235998263123969
  - toofy 4y ago
    ok, understandable. so he understands posts can potentially impact safety in the real world. so why does he actively mock some people or groups and make them seem unreasonable when they ask for twitter to help with their safety? do only billionaires get help from twitter now?
    - bcrosby95 4y ago
      Because we're all just extras in Elon's life story. Why should he care when the token black guy gets eaten by a shark?
  - bb88 4y ago
    So people were tweeting real time location of Elon's son? Or just Elon's jet? People get threatened by random weirdos all the time.
  - Eduard 4y ago
    ... imagine all those crazy Elon stalkers base-jumping on his flying plane's roof!
- bb88 4y ago
  > So someone gets a notification he has landed in Miami - are they going to race to the airport, hop the fence, run to his plane and confront him? Even if congress shutdown ADS-B receiving or encrypting it somehow, people would just get out the long range camera lenses and take pictures of the tail numbers as the planes land and report it on a web site.
  - jacquesm 4y ago
    ADS-B is used all over the world, the trend is actually in the opposite direction: more and more airspace requires the use of ADS-B. Encrypting it would defeat the purpose of allowing airplanes to see each other as well (ADS-B to some extent replaces radar). Congress could presumably pass some law but it would have to be ICAO or some other global organization that would formalize the change. Updating the systems on all aircraft would take many years. The current roll-out has been in progress for more than a decade.
trident5000 4y ago
- deleted 4y ago
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- jacquesm 4y ago
  That never happened. It's incredible how many people will just lap up what someone fantasizes over breakfast.
  - SketchySeaBeast 4y ago
    These are repeated so often it's mind-boggling. Somehow we're supposed to believe that 1) The team before did nothing, and 2) That the new team, which is not team at all and possibly doesn't even exist, IS doing something? How do either of those make sense? But it's acceptable to so many people because pedophilia is the new Satanic Panic.
    - bb88 4y ago
      Step 1: Say a falsehood Step 2: Repeat Step 1 for a long time Step 3: Enough people believe it it's true. When the twitter obituary is written, people will say this was the death knell.
- andirk 4y ago
  Not true. They censored that stupid H Biden lap top story _including in DMs which thus far had supposedly only been used for underage illicit material_.

by bb88 4y ago

jacquesm 4y ago

Elon mostly cares about Elon and the rest of the world are cardboard NPCs to him as far as I'm interpreting all of his actions for the last two months.

cagenut 4y ago
you typo'd decades its just more clear to more remote/casual observers the last two months
- jacquesm 4y ago
  Fair.

smcl 4y ago

I don’t even think it was particularly about his personal safety. So someone gets a notification he has landed in Miami - are they going to race to the airport, hop the fence, run to his plane and confront him? I genuinely think he just found it irritating that someone was trying to make him look bad. I don’t blame him, I’d probably feel the same way. But then I haven’t bought a social media platform and loudly and repeatedly proclaimed that I am a free-speech absolutist.

dragontamer 4y ago
This is all public info from the FAA. Unless Elon plans to ban the FAA from doing its job, people will know where Elon Musk's airplane is at all times. Banning a silly Twitter account that copy/pastes data from the FAA won't change a thing. The paparazzi have been using these things to follow celebrities since forever. It's an exorcise in ignorance to ignore the nature of FAA regulations / airplane tracking.
- SXX 4y ago
  Actually it's not even information from FAA since ADS-B Exchange use information gathered by private individuals. AFAIK all you need to gather ADS-B information for your own location is Android Phone, $30 USB dongle and some Antena.
  - ravel-bar-foo 4y ago
    That will only let you know when the plane is overhead, and costs 30 USD more than Twitter.
- polygamous_bat 4y ago
  > It's an exorcise in ignorance to ignore the nature of FAA regulations / airplane tracking. It may be more of an exercise of Elon flexing his $44B investment over the heaters and the poor people: by this point he knows that anyone even slightly left of center is not going to love him, so he's full on embracing the far/alt right crowd by "owning the libs". "Free speech" is lip service at max that some people fell for hook, line, and sinker.
- smcl 4y ago
  Well that’s the other thing - banning the account on Twitter doesn’t make this go away. It just means people will follow them on FB or just use flightradar24 instead.
  - ChrisMarshallNY 4y ago
    Paging Ms. Streisand. Ms. Barbra Streisand, on the white courtesy phone...
- squarefoot 4y ago
  Exactly. A thread on Twitter about his Jets wouldn't touch his personal safety since the data is public, but it would attract more among the people who don't like him, therefore he would be giving exposure to discussions against his public image. He has all rights to ban whoever he wishes since he owns the platform, but common sense should suggest him to stop talking about free speech since he's in no position to lecture anyone on the matter.
Geee 4y ago
His son X got threatened. Someone blocked the car and jumped on the hood. That's why they made this rule so suddenly.
- browserman 4y ago
  Definitely believe this self-justifying story made up on the spot by a notoriously inveterate liar.
  - Geee 4y ago
    He just posted a video of the guy: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603235998263123969 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603235998263123969
- toofy 4y ago
  ok, understandable. so he understands posts can potentially impact safety in the real world. so why does he actively mock some people or groups and make them seem unreasonable when they ask for twitter to help with their safety? do only billionaires get help from twitter now?
  - bcrosby95 4y ago
    Because we're all just extras in Elon's life story. Why should he care when the token black guy gets eaten by a shark?
- bb88 4y ago
  So people were tweeting real time location of Elon's son? Or just Elon's jet? People get threatened by random weirdos all the time.
- Eduard 4y ago
  ... imagine all those crazy Elon stalkers base-jumping on his flying plane's roof!
bb88 4y ago
> So someone gets a notification he has landed in Miami - are they going to race to the airport, hop the fence, run to his plane and confront him? Even if congress shutdown ADS-B receiving or encrypting it somehow, people would just get out the long range camera lenses and take pictures of the tail numbers as the planes land and report it on a web site.
- jacquesm 4y ago
  ADS-B is used all over the world, the trend is actually in the opposite direction: more and more airspace requires the use of ADS-B. Encrypting it would defeat the purpose of allowing airplanes to see each other as well (ADS-B to some extent replaces radar). Congress could presumably pass some law but it would have to be ICAO or some other global organization that would formalize the change. Updating the systems on all aircraft would take many years. The current roll-out has been in progress for more than a decade.

trident5000 4y ago

deleted 4y ago
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jacquesm 4y ago
That never happened. It's incredible how many people will just lap up what someone fantasizes over breakfast.
- SketchySeaBeast 4y ago
  These are repeated so often it's mind-boggling. Somehow we're supposed to believe that 1) The team before did nothing, and 2) That the new team, which is not team at all and possibly doesn't even exist, IS doing something? How do either of those make sense? But it's acceptable to so many people because pedophilia is the new Satanic Panic.
  - bb88 4y ago
    Step 1: Say a falsehood Step 2: Repeat Step 1 for a long time Step 3: Enough people believe it it's true. When the twitter obituary is written, people will say this was the death knell.
andirk 4y ago
Not true. They censored that stupid H Biden lap top story _including in DMs which thus far had supposedly only been used for underage illicit material_.