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They banned it again about 8 minutes ago. I was scrolling through the linked thread when it got suspended and the tweets disappeared.

jacquesm 4y ago
He should make up his mind about this 'free speech' thing and then stick to whatever decision he comes up with for at least a couple of months. This is beyond silly.
- bb88 4y ago
  Yeah... if he really cared about anyone else's personal safety other than his own, he wouldn't have fired the twitter safety team, and then not said anything about a former twitter executive. https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/12/12/musk-twitter-harass-yoel-roth/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/12/12/musk-tw...
  - jacquesm 4y ago
    Elon mostly cares about Elon and the rest of the world are cardboard NPCs to him as far as I'm interpreting all of his actions for the last two months.
    - cagenut 4y ago
      you typo'd decades its just more clear to more remote/casual observers the last two months
      - jacquesm 4y ago
        Fair.
  - smcl 4y ago
    I don’t even think it was particularly about his personal safety. So someone gets a notification he has landed in Miami - are they going to race to the airport, hop the fence, run to his plane and confront him? I genuinely think he just found it irritating that someone was trying to make him look bad. I don’t blame him, I’d probably feel the same way. But then I haven’t bought a social media platform and loudly and repeatedly proclaimed that I am a free-speech absolutist.
    - dragontamer 4y ago
      This is all public info from the FAA. Unless Elon plans to ban the FAA from doing its job, people will know where Elon Musk's airplane is at all times. Banning a silly Twitter account that copy/pastes data from the FAA won't change a thing. The paparazzi have been using these things to follow celebrities since forever. It's an exorcise in ignorance to ignore the nature of FAA regulations / airplane tracking.
      - SXX 4y ago
        Actually it's not even information from FAA since ADS-B Exchange use information gathered by private individuals. AFAIK all you need to gather ADS-B information for your own location is Android Phone, $30 USB dongle and some Antena.
        ravel-bar-foo 4y ago
        That will only let you know when the plane is overhead, and costs 30 USD more than Twitter.
      - polygamous_bat 4y ago
        > It's an exorcise in ignorance to ignore the nature of FAA regulations / airplane tracking. It may be more of an exercise of Elon flexing his $44B investment over the heaters and the poor people: by this point he knows that anyone even slightly left of center is not going to love him, so he's full on embracing the far/alt right crowd by "owning the libs". "Free speech" is lip service at max that some people fell for hook, line, and sinker.
      - smcl 4y ago
        Well that’s the other thing - banning the account on Twitter doesn’t make this go away. It just means people will follow them on FB or just use flightradar24 instead.
        ChrisMarshallNY 4y ago
        Paging Ms. Streisand. Ms. Barbra Streisand, on the white courtesy phone...
  - trident5000 4y ago
    - deleted 4y ago
      [deleted]
    - jacquesm 4y ago
      That never happened. It's incredible how many people will just lap up what someone fantasizes over breakfast.
      - SketchySeaBeast 4y ago
        These are repeated so often it's mind-boggling. Somehow we're supposed to believe that 1) The team before did nothing, and 2) That the new team, which is not team at all and possibly doesn't even exist, IS doing something? How do either of those make sense? But it's acceptable to so many people because pedophilia is the new Satanic Panic.
        bb88 4y ago
        Step 1: Say a falsehood Step 2: Repeat Step 1 for a long time Step 3: Enough people believe it it's true. When the twitter obituary is written, people will say this was the death knell.
    - andirk 4y ago
      Not true. They censored that stupid H Biden lap top story _including in DMs which thus far had supposedly only been used for underage illicit material_.
- trident5000 4y ago
  He said in multiple tweets theres still rules particularly with direct harm to people. Idk why you would think doxxing and tracking someones location (which in this case they stalked his family) would be ok. I feel like this is just a talking point even though you and others know better but just dont like Musk. If thats the case just say it.
  - jacquesm 4y ago
    Rules for thee but not for me. As for me liking Elon Musk: I used to. And then somewhere along the line it changed and now I in fact do not like him. But my liking or not liking him has nothing to do with simply holding him accountable, he made some pretty expensive statements and he fails to live by them, even for a very short period. And conveniently just when he's decided to ban that account a stalker of his family pops out of the woodwork. I'm sorry but Musk has lost the benefit of the doubt with me, too many lies over too many years.
    - dmix 4y ago
      Why would he tweet “tweets about my location posted on a delayed basis aren’t that bad” then an hour later ban it again? It’s very odd and throws gasoline for his detractors. This is after very publicly saying he would stand up even to people posting his flight info just last month. I get being emotional about the kid being stalked but the mixed signals are just frustrating.
      - jacquesm 4y ago
        The link between his kid being stalked - assuming it even happened - and deleting the account as well as his previous statements on the subject simply do not add up. This could have happened at any point prior to him taking over Twitter, but it didn't and now, magically, within 48 hours of the discussion around blocking the account blowing up there is the silver bullet. I'll read the police report if and when it becomes public (again, assuming there is one, which presumably there should be). Edit: an upthread comment states that the owner of the elonjet account says that the account has not tweeted since Dec. 12th so that the two can't possibly be connected.
- DoesntMatter22 4y ago
  In general I'm an Elon fan but it's funny watching him kinda learn why things are the way they are. He supported it in theory until he learned that it could affect not just him but his family.
  - ProjectArcturis 4y ago
    I could see being an Elon fan ~5 years ago, pre-pedo guy, and before it became clear that all of his promises are lies. Why now?
    - emmelaich 4y ago
      I don't understand the adulation or the contempt. He's done good things with SpaceX and Tesla. He's flawed. Shrug.
      - bombcar 4y ago
        As far as billionaires go he’s way more amusing than Bezos and Gates and Buffet all put together. Only Bankman-Fried has been close on the entertainment front.
        nickthegreek 4y ago
        That is a good thing?
        randomdata 4y ago
        In terms of fandom, those who put on a more entertaining performance will attract more fans.
        bombcar 4y ago
        I mean if we have to have billionaires they might as well perform for my amusement.
- wpietri 4y ago
  I think he and quite a number of people who wave the "free speech" banner are pretty consistent here. Anything the ingroup says comes under free speech. Anything the outgroup says is a shocking imposition on the freedoms of the ingroup. It fits pretty well with Musk's "woke" obsession. He should be able to do and say whatever he wants. But if he gets booed in response, then "The woke mind virus is either defeated or nothing else matters". Because the booers couldn't possibly be equal humans using freedom of speech to express their feelings.
NaturalPhallacy 4y ago
This might be why: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944
- jacquesm 4y ago
  I'm way past the point where I will believe Musk at his word.
- smcl 4y ago
  I think even if his private jet went completely dark and no updates to its location were posted anywhere this wouldn’t have changed anything here. If this happened (who knows, maybe it did) knowing where the jet landed or took off doesn’t allow you identify the location of any of his children or ex wives/partners
  - dmix 4y ago
    He should be fully aware of the Streisand Effect at a minimum anyway.
  - hotpotamus 4y ago
    Couldn't he buy a few jets owned by shell companies and have them randomly deadhead around the country as decoys? Or even, gasp, fly commercial?
- rodgerd 4y ago
  Like he kept Alex Jones banned because Musk cradled his dying child? Except oops, that was a lie. At this point if you believe anything Musk claims you are the dullest, most gullible shit I can imagine.
neilv 4y ago
Maybe the title should be updated, or people scanning headlines will be misled.
anigbrowl 4y ago
while not sufficient_hype: controversial_account.suspension = random.randint(0,1) ??? profit()

jacquesm 4y ago

He should make up his mind about this 'free speech' thing and then stick to whatever decision he comes up with for at least a couple of months. This is beyond silly.

bb88 4y ago
Yeah... if he really cared about anyone else's personal safety other than his own, he wouldn't have fired the twitter safety team, and then not said anything about a former twitter executive. https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/12/12/musk-twitter-harass-yoel-roth/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/12/12/musk-tw...
- jacquesm 4y ago
  Elon mostly cares about Elon and the rest of the world are cardboard NPCs to him as far as I'm interpreting all of his actions for the last two months.
  - cagenut 4y ago
    you typo'd decades its just more clear to more remote/casual observers the last two months
    - jacquesm 4y ago
      Fair.
- smcl 4y ago
  I don’t even think it was particularly about his personal safety. So someone gets a notification he has landed in Miami - are they going to race to the airport, hop the fence, run to his plane and confront him? I genuinely think he just found it irritating that someone was trying to make him look bad. I don’t blame him, I’d probably feel the same way. But then I haven’t bought a social media platform and loudly and repeatedly proclaimed that I am a free-speech absolutist.
  - dragontamer 4y ago
    This is all public info from the FAA. Unless Elon plans to ban the FAA from doing its job, people will know where Elon Musk's airplane is at all times. Banning a silly Twitter account that copy/pastes data from the FAA won't change a thing. The paparazzi have been using these things to follow celebrities since forever. It's an exorcise in ignorance to ignore the nature of FAA regulations / airplane tracking.
    - SXX 4y ago
      Actually it's not even information from FAA since ADS-B Exchange use information gathered by private individuals. AFAIK all you need to gather ADS-B information for your own location is Android Phone, $30 USB dongle and some Antena.
      - ravel-bar-foo 4y ago
        That will only let you know when the plane is overhead, and costs 30 USD more than Twitter.
    - polygamous_bat 4y ago
      > It's an exorcise in ignorance to ignore the nature of FAA regulations / airplane tracking. It may be more of an exercise of Elon flexing his $44B investment over the heaters and the poor people: by this point he knows that anyone even slightly left of center is not going to love him, so he's full on embracing the far/alt right crowd by "owning the libs". "Free speech" is lip service at max that some people fell for hook, line, and sinker.
    - smcl 4y ago
      Well that’s the other thing - banning the account on Twitter doesn’t make this go away. It just means people will follow them on FB or just use flightradar24 instead.
      - ChrisMarshallNY 4y ago
        Paging Ms. Streisand. Ms. Barbra Streisand, on the white courtesy phone...
- trident5000 4y ago
  - deleted 4y ago
    [deleted]
  - jacquesm 4y ago
    That never happened. It's incredible how many people will just lap up what someone fantasizes over breakfast.
    - SketchySeaBeast 4y ago
      These are repeated so often it's mind-boggling. Somehow we're supposed to believe that 1) The team before did nothing, and 2) That the new team, which is not team at all and possibly doesn't even exist, IS doing something? How do either of those make sense? But it's acceptable to so many people because pedophilia is the new Satanic Panic.
      - bb88 4y ago
        Step 1: Say a falsehood Step 2: Repeat Step 1 for a long time Step 3: Enough people believe it it's true. When the twitter obituary is written, people will say this was the death knell.
  - andirk 4y ago
    Not true. They censored that stupid H Biden lap top story _including in DMs which thus far had supposedly only been used for underage illicit material_.
trident5000 4y ago
He said in multiple tweets theres still rules particularly with direct harm to people. Idk why you would think doxxing and tracking someones location (which in this case they stalked his family) would be ok. I feel like this is just a talking point even though you and others know better but just dont like Musk. If thats the case just say it.
- jacquesm 4y ago
  Rules for thee but not for me. As for me liking Elon Musk: I used to. And then somewhere along the line it changed and now I in fact do not like him. But my liking or not liking him has nothing to do with simply holding him accountable, he made some pretty expensive statements and he fails to live by them, even for a very short period. And conveniently just when he's decided to ban that account a stalker of his family pops out of the woodwork. I'm sorry but Musk has lost the benefit of the doubt with me, too many lies over too many years.
  - dmix 4y ago
    Why would he tweet “tweets about my location posted on a delayed basis aren’t that bad” then an hour later ban it again? It’s very odd and throws gasoline for his detractors. This is after very publicly saying he would stand up even to people posting his flight info just last month. I get being emotional about the kid being stalked but the mixed signals are just frustrating.
    - jacquesm 4y ago
      The link between his kid being stalked - assuming it even happened - and deleting the account as well as his previous statements on the subject simply do not add up. This could have happened at any point prior to him taking over Twitter, but it didn't and now, magically, within 48 hours of the discussion around blocking the account blowing up there is the silver bullet. I'll read the police report if and when it becomes public (again, assuming there is one, which presumably there should be). Edit: an upthread comment states that the owner of the elonjet account says that the account has not tweeted since Dec. 12th so that the two can't possibly be connected.
DoesntMatter22 4y ago
In general I'm an Elon fan but it's funny watching him kinda learn why things are the way they are. He supported it in theory until he learned that it could affect not just him but his family.
- ProjectArcturis 4y ago
  I could see being an Elon fan ~5 years ago, pre-pedo guy, and before it became clear that all of his promises are lies. Why now?
  - emmelaich 4y ago
    I don't understand the adulation or the contempt. He's done good things with SpaceX and Tesla. He's flawed. Shrug.
    - bombcar 4y ago
      As far as billionaires go he’s way more amusing than Bezos and Gates and Buffet all put together. Only Bankman-Fried has been close on the entertainment front.
      - nickthegreek 4y ago
        That is a good thing?
        randomdata 4y ago
        In terms of fandom, those who put on a more entertaining performance will attract more fans.
        bombcar 4y ago
        I mean if we have to have billionaires they might as well perform for my amusement.
wpietri 4y ago
I think he and quite a number of people who wave the "free speech" banner are pretty consistent here. Anything the ingroup says comes under free speech. Anything the outgroup says is a shocking imposition on the freedoms of the ingroup. It fits pretty well with Musk's "woke" obsession. He should be able to do and say whatever he wants. But if he gets booed in response, then "The woke mind virus is either defeated or nothing else matters". Because the booers couldn't possibly be equal humans using freedom of speech to express their feelings.

NaturalPhallacy 4y ago

This might be why: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944

jacquesm 4y ago
I'm way past the point where I will believe Musk at his word.
smcl 4y ago
I think even if his private jet went completely dark and no updates to its location were posted anywhere this wouldn’t have changed anything here. If this happened (who knows, maybe it did) knowing where the jet landed or took off doesn’t allow you identify the location of any of his children or ex wives/partners
- dmix 4y ago
  He should be fully aware of the Streisand Effect at a minimum anyway.
- hotpotamus 4y ago
  Couldn't he buy a few jets owned by shell companies and have them randomly deadhead around the country as decoys? Or even, gasp, fly commercial?
rodgerd 4y ago
Like he kept Alex Jones banned because Musk cradled his dying child? Except oops, that was a lie. At this point if you believe anything Musk claims you are the dullest, most gullible shit I can imagine.

neilv 4y ago

Maybe the title should be updated, or people scanning headlines will be misled.

anigbrowl 4y ago

while not sufficient_hype: controversial_account.suspension = random.randint(0,1) ??? profit()