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This appears to be the new policy: https://twitter.com/TwitterSafety/status/1603165959669354496 https://twitter.com/TwitterSafety/status/1603165959669354496
by mjn 4y ago
This appears to be the new policy: https://twitter.com/TwitterSafety/status/1603165959669354496 https://twitter.com/TwitterSafety/status/1603165959669354496
- ceejayoz 4y ago“live location information, including information shared on Twitter directly or links to 3rd-party URL(s) of travel routes, actual physical location, or other identifying information that would reveal a person’s location, regardless if this information is publicly available” This makes “I am at <concert> watching <performer>” a violation.
- creaghpatr 4y ago"Content that shares location information related to a public engagement or event, such as a concert or political event, is also permitted." Literally the next sentence in the thread linked.
- ceejayoz 4y agoA plane taking off is a public event, and that statement isn’t in the actual policy linked.
- creaghpatr 4y agohttps://twitter.com/TwitterSafety/status/1603165967453868032?s=20&t=6RH3Gwb7BQ0jRJiNUxY7CA https://twitter.com/TwitterSafety/status/1603165967453868032...
- ceejayoz 4y agoAgain, that’s not in the “full policy” in the final link. An exception documented only in a Twitter thread might as well not exist. https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/personal-information https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/personal-info...
- deleted 4y ago[deleted]
- tedunangst 4y agoHaving two policies documented in two places helps when you need to decide which interpretation applies to a tweet you don't like.
- meepmorp 4y agoLanding at an airport is a public event
- jackvalentine 4y agoIt happens in public, but it isn’t a ‘public event’ by any reasonable interpretation unless Elon encourages people to come see him disembark the plane.
- meepmorp 4y agoActually, he’s celebrity, having deliberately sought the spotlight for years. That also means he has a lower reasonable expectation of privacy than a normal person, much like other celebrities and public people.
- jackvalentine 4y agoYeah but that doesn’t make Twitter’s new policy any less than what it says.
- aeturnum 4y agoFrom a Pro Publica article [1] some years back: "Use of the national airspace is generally considered public information because pilots – whether airline captains or recreational fliers – rely on a system of air traffic controllers, radars, runways and taxiways, lighting systems and towers that are all paid for or subsidized by taxpayers. As a result, flight data collected by the FAA in its air traffic control system – except for military and sensitive government flights – is public information. Web sites such as FlightAware post the data online, allowing anyone to observe the system and follow most planes virtually in real time." Which is not to say that Elon setting foot onto the tarmac should be open to the general public - but the very fact that airports are restricted spaces makes this kind of information more comfortable. [1] https://www.propublica.org/article/off-the-radar-private-planes-hidden-from-public-view-040810 https://www.propublica.org/article/off-the-radar-private-pla...
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- kelnos 4y agoReading the thread shows that this is explicitly allowed: > "You can still share your own live location on Twitter."
- ceejayoz 4y agoMy wording also shares the location of the performer. As the policy states, that information being otherwise public doesn’t matter.
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- SXX 4y agoI wonder how does Elon expect any journalist to follow these rules? Big chunk of information from press is reporting on public figures location and sometimes this include reporting in real time.
- ipqk 4y ago"Content that shares location information related to a public engagement or event, such as a concert or political event, is also permitted."
- testfrequency 4y agoThank god artists can still post their set times, was worried about freedom of speech for a second there. The new Twitter is just Elon being offended and abusing his power, then retweeting and liking single tweets that validate his current mood
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- SXX 4y agoAccording to these rules journalists are no longer allowed to publicly share information about Elon going to visit his Saudi creditors since it's wont be public event. Nice!
- surrealize 4y agoThey can, just not in real time. "Tweets that share someone else’s historical (not same-day) location information are also not prohibited by this policy."
- SXX 4y agoYes. According to Twitter policy there must be "24 hours" delay since it's only way to follow "not same-day" rule. This will obviously makes Twitter useless for any news reporting.
- spamizbad 4y agoThis change is going to make it very easy to shut down OSINT accounts that geolocate people.
- ratg13 4y agoDevils Advocate: why would that be a bad thing?
- SXX 4y agoBecause there is actual war going on? Information about Russian government aircrafts or Putin's oligarchs private jets leaving country can be important in real time. Musk banned those too.
- jacquesm 4y agoThat's just him taking care of his friends.
- turtlebits 4y agoIt's Twitter. Militaries shouldn't be depending on Twitter accounts for their intel.
- SXX 4y agoIt's not about militaries since military planes mostly have their ADS-B transponder off. But OSINT community depend heavily on flight trackers and also on sharing location information with wide audience. It's possible without Twitter, but bans for sharing of location information will make it much easier for Russia to block investigator accounts.
- spamizbad 4y agoOSINT accounts provide detailed information on a number of global conflicts, not just the ones that get covered in the media. And the level of detail and analysis is almost always better than what you get in the mainstream media.
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- phillipcarter 4y agoHah. Excited to learn the ways it's gonna be completely different next week.
- Volundr 4y agoThis feels like tweeting something like "hanging out with <person> at <restraunt>" is now a bannable offense? Am I missing something?
- turtlebits 4y agoIf that person didn't want their location shared, they should be able to request the tweet be deleted. Multiple offenses against your account? I'd say yes, bannable.
- Volundr 4y ago> If that person didn't want their location shared Is there anywhere in the policy that specifies that? By my read of the policy this is disallowed no matter what the other person thinks.
- MallocVoidstar 4y agoIt's a hastily-written rule designed to ban Things Musk Doesn't Like while allowing things he does. See also the exception: > In addition, you may not share private media, such as images or videos of private individuals, without their consent. However, we recognise that there are instances where users may share images or videos of private individuals, who are not public figures, as part of a newsworthy event or to further public discourse on issues or events of public interest. In such cases, we may allow the media to remain on the platform. So vague it's impossible to determine in advance what's allowed and what's not.