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So we should probably talk about CloudFlare as an accessory. Are they protected under Section 230? This appears to be illegal behavior and it was brought to the
by KerrAvon 4y ago
So we should probably talk about CloudFlare as an accessory. Are they protected under Section 230? This appears to be illegal behavior and it was brought to their attention and they failed to take action.
- creeble 4y agoHa, they'll probably get credited by the FBI for assisting in the investigation, as they did last time. Cloudflare gets the low-integrity prize.
- from 4y agoCloudflare responds to subpoenas and is probably very useful from an intelligence perspective. 99% of Cloudflare criticism boils down to media companies being mad that they have to ask Cloudflare for the origin IP address and then complain to the hoster instead of just complaining directly.
- kbuck 4y agoCloudflare won't tell you the abuse contact or the origin IP, they'll just forward your entire abuse report verbatim to the hosting provider of the booter, who will either ignore it or forward it (also verbatim and unredacted) to the operator of the booter. So nothing happens from the abuse report except that you tell the booter operator exactly who you are. How many "stressers" do you think the feds don't have time or motivation to care about getting subpoenas for? Because I can guarantee you there are more than the "four dozen" taken down here, and the vast majority have their identities and infrastructure protected by Cloudflare -- who also profits from their existence.
- greyface- 4y agoFrom a business perspective, Cloudflare benefits from the existence of DDoS-for-hire sites, since they can sell protection to would-be victims.
- tptacek 4y agoCloudflare isn't required to take action against the crimes of random strangers. Even if they supposedly benefit from them.