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It's such a shame there isn't a Kindle/ePub/PDF version. I guess I'm off to kill another tree.

bch 15y ago
Hit your friendly neighbourhood used bookstore.
dangrossman 15y ago
What's wrong with killing trees that were grown specifically for paper? You're just taking CO2 out of the atmosphere, helping reduce global climate change. The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change said "In the long term, a sustainable forest management strategy aimed at maintaining or increasing forest carbon stocks, while producing an annual sustained yield of timber, fibre or energy from the forest, will generate the largest sustained mitigation benefit". http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar4/wg3/ar4-wg3-chapter9.pdf http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar4/wg3/ar4-wg3-cha...
- brianwillis 15y ago
  You've got a point there, but shipping that book to where I live halfway around the world in New Zealand isn't doing climate change any favours.
  - nandemo 15y ago
    I think you're overthinking it. I'm pretty sure other people in NZ are buying the same book, the marginal impact of shipping one copy must be very close to zero. I've got a Kindle but I wouldn't trade my hardcover GEB for an electronic version.
- jasonwocky 15y ago
  Killing trees takes CO2 out of the atmosphere? I think you've got this backwards.
  - dangrossman 15y ago
    Growing trees to make them into timber, pulp, etc. takes CO2 out of the atmosphere. As long as you're not growing them to burn them, it's one of the most effective CO2 sequestration methods we have. 77% of tree usage in the US is for timber and pulpwood. Fast-growing species are planted and harvested over a 10-20 year cycle so that as each section is cut down and replanted, another section is maturing. It's both sustainable business and an effective CO2 sink.
    - jasonwocky 15y ago
      Thanks. That makes sense. My brain farted and I couldn't make the leap after "What's wrong with killing trees? You're just taking CO2 out of the atmosphere."
    - yahelc 15y ago
      [citation needed]
      - dangrossman 15y ago
        It's really not. If you want a citation for "growing trees takes CO2 out of the atmosphere", a high school bio book will suffice -- the carbon mass of the tree is carbon extracted from the atmosphere (and dead plant mass in soil, but the carbon there came from the atmosphere too). If you want a citation for growing trees for timber and pulp as an effective CO2 sink, the citation is right in the grandfather post (an international climate change study by the IPCC including researchers from over a dozen countries, how much more authoritative can we get?), or just look up the paper and timber industries on wikipedia.
        yahelc 15y ago
        I was more interested in the source for the specific number you gave. Should have been less snarky, sorry!
        15y ago
lclaude01 15y ago
Here is an easy way for Kindle/ePub/PDF ... http://www.magicscroll.net http://www.magicscroll.net
- bartman 15y ago
  As far as I can tell this is a web-based ePub reader. How does this help reading GEB on a Kindle/...?
redthrowaway 15y ago
There's a pdf on tpb, so there should be a legitimate version somewhere.
- preek 15y ago
  I have the original as hardcover, but also wanted to be able to read on the go on the iPad, so I downloaded the ebook. It's a scan with OCR. Unfortunately the OCR is bad on many parts of the page - random occurences of %, ' and other characters are common. Also some words are totally unreadable. Overall, I still read sometimes on the iPad, but having to go back to the hardcover if I'm totally lost.
  - redthrowaway 15y ago
    I just noticed that after I downloaded. Pretty unfortunate. Oh well, one more dead tree won't hurt anyone.
- deleted 15y ago
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- rmc 15y ago
  Just because there is a PDF (or ePub etc.) of a book exists doesn't mean there is an official ebook. Some pirates scan books and either upload those each-page-is-one-image pdfs or (worse) they OCR these images andc upload that text.
JonnieCache 15y ago
To anyone looking to purchase themselves some dead trees, I recommend that you pick up an older second hand copy. I have it on good authority that the recent 20th anniversary reprint is of a much lower quality, with crappy thin pages and less clear type.
- noahth 15y ago
  Possessing both versions, I can confirm that the paper in the anniversary edition is thinner, but I think if anything the type is easier to read. YMMV, of course.
AlbumX10 15y ago
Here's a working link to the pdf: http://www.4shared.com/get/kj6ls_4Z/Godel_Escher_Bach-An_Eternal_G.html http://www.4shared.com/get/kj6ls_4Z/Godel_Escher_Bach-An_Ete... No seeders for torrent though, so direct download is the only option.
- thebigshane 15y ago
  Can an admin please remove the parent comment? We should not be promoting and posting links to pirated material here.
levesque 15y ago
In my case, it's more a matter of praticality. My nook is lighter than a book and contains many books, so if I don't feel like reading one type of book I can switch easily. Less importantly, I can hold the nook with one hand and still be able to turn pages. I travel by bus, so this is useful to me - my other hand can hold a coffee ;)

bch 15y ago

Hit your friendly neighbourhood used bookstore.

What's wrong with killing trees that were grown specifically for paper? You're just taking CO2 out of the atmosphere, helping reduce global climate change. The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change said "In the long term, a sustainable forest management strategy aimed at maintaining or increasing forest carbon stocks, while producing an annual sustained yield of timber, fibre or energy from the forest, will generate the largest sustained mitigation benefit". http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar4/wg3/ar4-wg3-chapter9.pdf http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar4/wg3/ar4-wg3-cha...

brianwillis 15y ago
You've got a point there, but shipping that book to where I live halfway around the world in New Zealand isn't doing climate change any favours.
- nandemo 15y ago
  I think you're overthinking it. I'm pretty sure other people in NZ are buying the same book, the marginal impact of shipping one copy must be very close to zero. I've got a Kindle but I wouldn't trade my hardcover GEB for an electronic version.
jasonwocky 15y ago
Killing trees takes CO2 out of the atmosphere? I think you've got this backwards.
- dangrossman 15y ago
  Growing trees to make them into timber, pulp, etc. takes CO2 out of the atmosphere. As long as you're not growing them to burn them, it's one of the most effective CO2 sequestration methods we have. 77% of tree usage in the US is for timber and pulpwood. Fast-growing species are planted and harvested over a 10-20 year cycle so that as each section is cut down and replanted, another section is maturing. It's both sustainable business and an effective CO2 sink.
  - jasonwocky 15y ago
    Thanks. That makes sense. My brain farted and I couldn't make the leap after "What's wrong with killing trees? You're just taking CO2 out of the atmosphere."
  - yahelc 15y ago
    [citation needed]
    - dangrossman 15y ago
      It's really not. If you want a citation for "growing trees takes CO2 out of the atmosphere", a high school bio book will suffice -- the carbon mass of the tree is carbon extracted from the atmosphere (and dead plant mass in soil, but the carbon there came from the atmosphere too). If you want a citation for growing trees for timber and pulp as an effective CO2 sink, the citation is right in the grandfather post (an international climate change study by the IPCC including researchers from over a dozen countries, how much more authoritative can we get?), or just look up the paper and timber industries on wikipedia.
      - yahelc 15y ago
        I was more interested in the source for the specific number you gave. Should have been less snarky, sorry!
        15y ago

lclaude01 15y ago

Here is an easy way for Kindle/ePub/PDF ... http://www.magicscroll.net http://www.magicscroll.net

bartman 15y ago
As far as I can tell this is a web-based ePub reader. How does this help reading GEB on a Kindle/...?

redthrowaway 15y ago

There's a pdf on tpb, so there should be a legitimate version somewhere.

preek 15y ago
I have the original as hardcover, but also wanted to be able to read on the go on the iPad, so I downloaded the ebook. It's a scan with OCR. Unfortunately the OCR is bad on many parts of the page - random occurences of %, ' and other characters are common. Also some words are totally unreadable. Overall, I still read sometimes on the iPad, but having to go back to the hardcover if I'm totally lost.
- redthrowaway 15y ago
  I just noticed that after I downloaded. Pretty unfortunate. Oh well, one more dead tree won't hurt anyone.
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rmc 15y ago
Just because there is a PDF (or ePub etc.) of a book exists doesn't mean there is an official ebook. Some pirates scan books and either upload those each-page-is-one-image pdfs or (worse) they OCR these images andc upload that text.

JonnieCache 15y ago

To anyone looking to purchase themselves some dead trees, I recommend that you pick up an older second hand copy. I have it on good authority that the recent 20th anniversary reprint is of a much lower quality, with crappy thin pages and less clear type.

noahth 15y ago
Possessing both versions, I can confirm that the paper in the anniversary edition is thinner, but I think if anything the type is easier to read. YMMV, of course.

AlbumX10 15y ago

Here's a working link to the pdf: http://www.4shared.com/get/kj6ls_4Z/Godel_Escher_Bach-An_Eternal_G.html http://www.4shared.com/get/kj6ls_4Z/Godel_Escher_Bach-An_Ete... No seeders for torrent though, so direct download is the only option.

thebigshane 15y ago
Can an admin please remove the parent comment? We should not be promoting and posting links to pirated material here.

levesque 15y ago

In my case, it's more a matter of praticality. My nook is lighter than a book and contains many books, so if I don't feel like reading one type of book I can switch easily. Less importantly, I can hold the nook with one hand and still be able to turn pages. I travel by bus, so this is useful to me - my other hand can hold a coffee ;)