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Following someone around and posting their location to the world would be considered doxxing in other cases.

by hajile 4y ago

paulryanrogers 4y ago
Jets pollute and use a lot of finite resources. Tracking them is necessary for aviation safety. So making that info more public doesn't strike me as such a violation of privacy. If Elon is concerned maybe he could just rent a jet as needed instead of keeping one all to himself.
- hajile 4y ago
  That argument is completely unrelated. If they were publishing "Elon has flown X miles, used Y fuel and created Z emissions in the past T time" that would be far different than what they do. You are reaching for excuses that can't possibly apply. Perhaps you should ask why you'd go so far to excuse this doxxing, but not others. I personally dislike Musk and view him as a conman. I take issue with several things he's done at Twitter and even more with what he's done at companies like Boring Company, Paypal, or Tesla (eg, promising the first car to the actual founder then launching it into space just to spite them). People here just managed to find a thing where he happens to be right (whether it comes from personal pettiness or actual principle).
  - dr-detroit 4y ago
danans 4y ago
If it's Doxxing, why haven't charges been filed under the Interstate Doxxing Prevention Act: https://projects.propublica.org/represent/bills/114/hr6478 https://projects.propublica.org/represent/bills/114/hr6478
- hajile 4y ago
  First, that bill was introduced, but died on the floor. Second, if it were passed, intent can be very hard to prove -- even in seemingly clear-cut cases. Third, only the DOJ could choose to actually prosecute.
  - danans 4y ago
    Fair point about the bill not being passed. I should have noticed that. > Second, if it were passed, intent can be very hard to prove -- even in seemingly clear-cut cases. It's not at all clear cut in my opinion. This is information that is already in a public database, and it's the location of an airplane - not a person. That's not a technicality, unless the airplane is somehow a primary residence. It's pretty different than publishing someone's private phone number or the name of the school that their children attend. The latter type of information is actually private.
clouddrover 4y ago
It isn't doxxing. The information is publicly available already. ElonJet just put the information on Twitter. And Instagram, Facebook, Telegram, and now Mastodon: https://mastodon.social/@elonjet https://mastodon.social/@elonjet

Following someone around and posting their location to the world would be considered doxxing in other cases.

by hajile 4y ago

Following someone around and posting their location to the world would be considered doxxing in other cases.

Jets pollute and use a lot of finite resources. Tracking them is necessary for aviation safety. So making that info more public doesn't strike me as such a violation of privacy. If Elon is concerned maybe he could just rent a jet as needed instead of keeping one all to himself.

hajile 4y ago
That argument is completely unrelated. If they were publishing "Elon has flown X miles, used Y fuel and created Z emissions in the past T time" that would be far different than what they do. You are reaching for excuses that can't possibly apply. Perhaps you should ask why you'd go so far to excuse this doxxing, but not others. I personally dislike Musk and view him as a conman. I take issue with several things he's done at Twitter and even more with what he's done at companies like Boring Company, Paypal, or Tesla (eg, promising the first car to the actual founder then launching it into space just to spite them). People here just managed to find a thing where he happens to be right (whether it comes from personal pettiness or actual principle).
- dr-detroit 4y ago

danans 4y ago

If it's Doxxing, why haven't charges been filed under the Interstate Doxxing Prevention Act: https://projects.propublica.org/represent/bills/114/hr6478 https://projects.propublica.org/represent/bills/114/hr6478

hajile 4y ago
First, that bill was introduced, but died on the floor. Second, if it were passed, intent can be very hard to prove -- even in seemingly clear-cut cases. Third, only the DOJ could choose to actually prosecute.
- danans 4y ago
  Fair point about the bill not being passed. I should have noticed that. > Second, if it were passed, intent can be very hard to prove -- even in seemingly clear-cut cases. It's not at all clear cut in my opinion. This is information that is already in a public database, and it's the location of an airplane - not a person. That's not a technicality, unless the airplane is somehow a primary residence. It's pretty different than publishing someone's private phone number or the name of the school that their children attend. The latter type of information is actually private.

clouddrover 4y ago

It isn't doxxing. The information is publicly available already. ElonJet just put the information on Twitter. And Instagram, Facebook, Telegram, and now Mastodon: https://mastodon.social/@elonjet https://mastodon.social/@elonjet