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Anecdotal, I own a Tesla Model 3 with FSD. I bought a Tesla/EV because the carpool sticker saves me 15 to 20 minutes on my commute. My sticker expires next
by adrr 4y ago
Anecdotal, I own a Tesla Model 3 with FSD. I bought a Tesla/EV because the carpool sticker saves me 15 to 20 minutes on my commute. My sticker expires next year and was going to get another Tesla but my wife veto'ed the decision because of the comments Elon made about prosecuting Fauci.
- rayiner 4y ago> but my wife veto'ed the decision because of the comments Elon made about prosecuting Fauci. That's like the least off-the-mark thing Elon has said. The gain of function research is bad, bad stuff.
- hn_throwaway_99 4y agoAgreed, but trying to pin it on Fauci and saying he's responsible for Covid is lunatic rantings. Please see https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/10/29/repeated-claim-that-fauci-lied-congress-about-gain-of-function-research/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/10/29/repeated-... (And, as I always say about these fact-checking sites, you can take the "number of Pinocchios" however you want, but there is very good, detailed information there that provides a much more complete picture than any "prosecute Fauci" nonsense).
- rayiner 4y agoDid Musk say Fauci was "responsible for COVID?" Or did he make a tongue-in-cheek joke? Is Fauci above such criticism? He did an okay job during COVID, but is also a pretty good archetype for things that are wrong with public health--the gain of function research, failure to perform cost-benefit analysis in recommending lock downs, initially lying to the public about the efficacy of masks, etc. To be clear, I'm a longtime Musk/Tesla skeptic. I'm watching quite gleefully as the whole self-driving car thing implodes (for me, it's a two-fer). But perhaps the only folks with less of a sense of humor than Musk fanboys are Fauci fanboys.
- bufferoverflow 4y agoFauci lied under oath. The specific lie was "The NIH has not ever and does not now fund gain-of-function research in the Wuhan Institute of Virology." Which we now know is not true https://www.newsweek.com/fauci-untruthful-congress-wuhan-lab-research-documents-show-gain-function-1627351 https://www.newsweek.com/fauci-untruthful-congress-wuhan-lab...
- hn_throwaway_99 4y agoI'll take your "untrue" and call it untrue: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/10/29/repeated-claim-that-fauci-lied-congress-about-gain-of-function-research/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/10/29/repeated-...
- bufferoverflow 4y agoFrom your own link: "When the Intercept obtained EcoHealth documents in September, seven of 11 scientists who are virologists or work in adjacent fields told the Intercept that the work appeared to meet NIH’s criteria for gain-of-function research" So majority of scientists are on my side, minority on yours.
- hn_throwaway_99 4y agoBut exactly, the point is not to say that there is not gray area here (there is), but that the calls of "Fauci lied" and "prosecute Fauci" is what is bullshit. If you had measured people arguing in good faith that the CDC needs clearer procedures on banning this type of research, I'm all for it. But you don't, you have people shrieking that Fauci is responsible for the deaths of millions, which is nuts.
- bufferoverflow 4y agoIt's not a "gray area" minority of partisan scientists are pretending what they were doing is not a gain of function, when it obviously is.