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> ...by architecting our infrastructure with security and privacy in mind. The blog and the website loads in so many trackers (reasonable, given metrics are im

> ...by architecting our infrastructure with security and privacy in mind. The blog and the website loads in so many trackers (reasonable, given metrics are important when you're busy hyperscaling a venture-backed startup), that folks at Tailscale should seriously reconsider positioning themselves as some paragons of privacy. No offence (:

fsociety 4y ago
Why does a for-profit company have to practice perfect anonymity to sell a product which does have security/privacy in mind?
- ignoramous 4y ago
  > Why does a for-profit company have to... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25457440 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25457440 > ...practice perfect anonymity to sell a product which does have security/privacy in mind? So are free users "the product?" No. If we're going to fix the Internet, there's no point only fixing it for big companies who can pay a lot. That misses the point of the whole adventure. The Internet is for everyone. We have to fix it for everyone, or why bother? We knew we had to design a business model and a technical architecture that removes any incentive to abuse your privacy. - CEO at Tailscale, https://archive.is/R7jqw https://archive.is/R7jqw
cpach 4y ago
Are you sure people who complain about such things are in Tailscale’s target demographic?
- yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago
  Well, if Tailscale is bothering to talk about "architecting our infrastructure with security and privacy in mind", they seem to think so.
slig 4y ago
> website loads in so many trackers Not on my browser. Maybe you should consider a better browser and/or install some extensions.
- yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago
  The term for this is "victim blaming", and the answer is "no, that shouldn't be necessary".
  - slig 4y ago
    But that's the reality of the web. We can complain or we can block those things.
    - ignoramous 4y ago
      And we can call out things, just the same.

fsociety 4y ago

Why does a for-profit company have to practice perfect anonymity to sell a product which does have security/privacy in mind?

ignoramous 4y ago
> Why does a for-profit company have to... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25457440 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25457440 > ...practice perfect anonymity to sell a product which does have security/privacy in mind? So are free users "the product?" No. If we're going to fix the Internet, there's no point only fixing it for big companies who can pay a lot. That misses the point of the whole adventure. The Internet is for everyone. We have to fix it for everyone, or why bother? We knew we had to design a business model and a technical architecture that removes any incentive to abuse your privacy. - CEO at Tailscale, https://archive.is/R7jqw https://archive.is/R7jqw

cpach 4y ago

Are you sure people who complain about such things are in Tailscale’s target demographic?

yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago
Well, if Tailscale is bothering to talk about "architecting our infrastructure with security and privacy in mind", they seem to think so.

slig 4y ago

> website loads in so many trackers Not on my browser. Maybe you should consider a better browser and/or install some extensions.

yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago
The term for this is "victim blaming", and the answer is "no, that shouldn't be necessary".
- slig 4y ago
  But that's the reality of the web. We can complain or we can block those things.
  - ignoramous 4y ago
    And we can call out things, just the same.