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They jumped the gun on SBF. Should have let him testify in congress. The timing makes it look like they didn’t want him to talk. May not be the case but it’s wh

They jumped the gun on SBF. Should have let him testify in congress. The timing makes it look like they didn’t want him to talk. May not be the case but it’s what it looks like.

amanj41 4y ago
Have seen this conspiracy theory propounded by several people now. Two things: 1) SBF refused to testify right before he was due to anyways: https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/12/former-ftx-ceo-sam-bankman-fried-refuses-to-testify-by-senate-banking-.html https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/12/former-ftx-ceo-sam-bankman-f... 2) The charges he is looking at are so serious, I have a hard time believing it would matter that much whether he racked up one more charge of lying under oath Edit: formatting
- brandnewaccount 4y ago
  Plus, why let him "testify" and potentially spread misinformation, doing even more harm
JumpCrisscross 4y ago
> makes it look like they didn’t want him to talk We know what he was going to say [1]. [1] https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevenehrlich/2022/12/13/exclusive-transcript-the-full-testimony-sbf-planned-to-give-to-congress/?sh=531ba243c474 https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevenehrlich/2022/12/13/exclus...
kahrl 4y ago
BASELESS conspiracy theory.
- devmunchies 4y ago
  I didn't propose a conspiracy theory, just noticing suspicious, coincidental timing. Its was THE DAY BEFORE THE HEARING. A conspiracy theory would include why they wouldn't want him to talk (a la Esptein theories). And its literally not "baseless" if you ask if its coincidental that he was arrested the day before he was supposed to testify, why not let the hearing come and go and if he was a no show then arrest him? They are just questions. Regardless, SBF was charged for conspiracy, fraud, collusion, etc. Why are any questions that would throw suspicion on other parties to the conspiracy immediately shut down?
  - prirun 4y ago
    Maybe they didn't want him to go in front of Congress because they were afraid Congress might grant him immunity. Given all the money he donated to both sides, it seems plausible to me.
    - devmunchies 4y ago
      I believe congress can only make recommendations, they can't actually pass any judgement from a hearing.
      - prirun 4y ago
        I looked this up before posting my comment. According to Wikipedia at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witness_immunity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witness_immunity: "In the United States, Congress can also grant criminal immunity (at the Federal level) to witnesses in exchange for testifying.[1]"
cuteboy19 4y ago
They can still make him do it now. Prison has zoom calls
- devmunchies 4y ago
  not the same dynamic. Now his guard is up and will probably plead the 5th and be behind a team of lawyers.
  - fineIllregister 4y ago
    The DOJ has a 95% conviction rate. SBF has confessed to illegal activity in his many interviews. His coworkers are believed to have cut deals. The new CEO is helping the feds, so they have expert testimony and access to all the material evidence. It is over for SBF (barring a miracle). They weren't going to get anything from his congressional testimony.

They jumped the gun on SBF. Should have let him testify in congress. The timing makes it look like they didn’t want him to talk. May not be the case but it’s what it looks like.

amanj41 4y ago

Have seen this conspiracy theory propounded by several people now. Two things: 1) SBF refused to testify right before he was due to anyways: https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/12/former-ftx-ceo-sam-bankman-fried-refuses-to-testify-by-senate-banking-.html https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/12/former-ftx-ceo-sam-bankman-f... 2) The charges he is looking at are so serious, I have a hard time believing it would matter that much whether he racked up one more charge of lying under oath Edit: formatting

brandnewaccount 4y ago
Plus, why let him "testify" and potentially spread misinformation, doing even more harm

JumpCrisscross 4y ago

> makes it look like they didn’t want him to talk We know what he was going to say [1]. [1] https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevenehrlich/2022/12/13/exclusive-transcript-the-full-testimony-sbf-planned-to-give-to-congress/?sh=531ba243c474 https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevenehrlich/2022/12/13/exclus...

kahrl 4y ago

BASELESS conspiracy theory.

devmunchies 4y ago
I didn't propose a conspiracy theory, just noticing suspicious, coincidental timing. Its was THE DAY BEFORE THE HEARING. A conspiracy theory would include why they wouldn't want him to talk (a la Esptein theories). And its literally not "baseless" if you ask if its coincidental that he was arrested the day before he was supposed to testify, why not let the hearing come and go and if he was a no show then arrest him? They are just questions. Regardless, SBF was charged for conspiracy, fraud, collusion, etc. Why are any questions that would throw suspicion on other parties to the conspiracy immediately shut down?
- prirun 4y ago
  Maybe they didn't want him to go in front of Congress because they were afraid Congress might grant him immunity. Given all the money he donated to both sides, it seems plausible to me.
  - devmunchies 4y ago
    I believe congress can only make recommendations, they can't actually pass any judgement from a hearing.
    - prirun 4y ago
      I looked this up before posting my comment. According to Wikipedia at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witness_immunity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witness_immunity: "In the United States, Congress can also grant criminal immunity (at the Federal level) to witnesses in exchange for testifying.[1]"

cuteboy19 4y ago

They can still make him do it now. Prison has zoom calls

devmunchies 4y ago
not the same dynamic. Now his guard is up and will probably plead the 5th and be behind a team of lawyers.
- fineIllregister 4y ago
  The DOJ has a 95% conviction rate. SBF has confessed to illegal activity in his many interviews. His coworkers are believed to have cut deals. The new CEO is helping the feds, so they have expert testimony and access to all the material evidence. It is over for SBF (barring a miracle). They weren't going to get anything from his congressional testimony.