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> Still.. amazing cars. Are they really that nice? I've been in a few but never owned one. I hear a lot about fit and finish issues unbefitting a car of that p

> Still.. amazing cars. Are they really that nice? I've been in a few but never owned one. I hear a lot about fit and finish issues unbefitting a car of that price range. What does a Model S get you that an S-class doesn't, or a Model 3 against, I don't know, an Audi A4? Is it just all about that electric drivetrain? I don't yet have a strong preference on electric vs. ICE, but I would gladly pay more to have a car without the "slap an iPad in the middle for every UX" design of the Tesla.

Bhilai 4y ago
Indeed, at this point, if I had the money (or was in the market for an EV) I would buy a Mercedes EQS (or Porche Taycan) instead of Tesla model S or a of BMW i4 instead of a Model3.
- lisper 4y ago
  My wife has a BMW 330e PHEV. We both love it. We've had it for almost a year and filled the tank twice.
  - repler 4y ago
    What’s the EV range? I’ve never seen anything over 50 miles, but I wish some manufacturer could take a PHEV to 100 mile range and I’d snap that up in a heartbeat.
    - fragmede 4y ago
      Why 100? Isn't range anxiety the reason you'd get a PHEV instead of an electric-only vehicle?
      - repler 4y ago
        Yes, but I’d like to be able to do my daily commute full EV and that is closer to 80 miles round trip. Then for longer trips we have the convenience of not needing to charge.
    - lisper 4y ago
      15-20 miles, but that turns out to be enough for >95% of our trips. But the best thing is that we never have range anxiety. Also, we get a full charge overnight from a regular 15A outlet.
yreg 4y ago
>fit and finish issues This depends a lot on your region. Fremont factory is well known for build/paint quality issues. Shanghai & Berlin cars are much better.
runnerup 4y ago
I figured buying Tesla got you access to the supercharger network. That seems like a massive differentiator still. Can’t wait for all EVs and chargers to be interoperable.

Bhilai 4y ago

Indeed, at this point, if I had the money (or was in the market for an EV) I would buy a Mercedes EQS (or Porche Taycan) instead of Tesla model S or a of BMW i4 instead of a Model3.

lisper 4y ago
My wife has a BMW 330e PHEV. We both love it. We've had it for almost a year and filled the tank twice.
- repler 4y ago
  What’s the EV range? I’ve never seen anything over 50 miles, but I wish some manufacturer could take a PHEV to 100 mile range and I’d snap that up in a heartbeat.
  - fragmede 4y ago
    Why 100? Isn't range anxiety the reason you'd get a PHEV instead of an electric-only vehicle?
    - repler 4y ago
      Yes, but I’d like to be able to do my daily commute full EV and that is closer to 80 miles round trip. Then for longer trips we have the convenience of not needing to charge.
  - lisper 4y ago
    15-20 miles, but that turns out to be enough for >95% of our trips. But the best thing is that we never have range anxiety. Also, we get a full charge overnight from a regular 15A outlet.

yreg 4y ago

>fit and finish issues This depends a lot on your region. Fremont factory is well known for build/paint quality issues. Shanghai & Berlin cars are much better.

runnerup 4y ago

I figured buying Tesla got you access to the supercharger network. That seems like a massive differentiator still. Can’t wait for all EVs and chargers to be interoperable.